http://kotaku.com/nintendo-will-release-new-platform-in-2015-but-its-ab-1512068419 (http://kotaku.com/nintendo-will-release-new-platform-in-2015-but-its-ab-1512068419)
Whether or not it's actually a game console is up in the air for now, I suppose.
So it's basically an updated version of wii fit
Quote from: TheGameNinja on January 29, 2014, 03:09:50 PM
http://kotaku.com/nintendo-will-release-new-platform-in-2015-but-its-ab-1512068419 (http://kotaku.com/nintendo-will-release-new-platform-in-2015-but-its-ab-1512068419)
Whether or not it's actually a game console is up in the air for now, I suppose.
If that is true...
Well, there goes Nintendo.
I don't think this is something that will replace the Wii U. I think it will exist alongside it.
Quote from: TheGameNinja on January 29, 2014, 11:17:01 PM
I don't think this is something that will replace the Wii U. I think it will exist alongside it.
Doesn't Nintendo know what happened to Sega a couple decades back? Releasing multiple consoles in such a short span of time is a terrible idea.
Quote from: sonicman0 on January 30, 2014, 06:41:09 AM
Doesn't Nintendo know what happened to Sega a couple decades back? Releasing multiple consoles in such a short span of time is a terrible idea.
It seems like this is aimed more at the people that bought the Wii as a toy back when it was a fad and never bought a Wii U.
If, unlike the SEGA Saturn and Dreamcast, they play the same games, I think this is a bad move.
Has it even been confirmed to be a new GAMING console? Maybe it just runs a new version of Wii Fit dedicated to itself, so consumers that like that sort of thing don't have to buy a Wii U. I mean, they've invested more than enough time into the thing.
Quote from: jkid101094 on January 30, 2014, 02:11:39 PM
Has it even been confirmed to be a new GAMING console? Maybe it just runs a new version of Wii Fit dedicated to itself, so consumers that like that sort of thing don't have to buy a Wii U. I mean, they've invested more than enough time into the thing.
That's what the (?) is for.
Well in that case I don't see why everyone is already comparing it to SEGA. They were asstards that kept pumping things out to expand and replace their older consoles. If this is completely separate from the the Wii U all it does is push the Nintendo name into other markets. Can you imagine Nintendo licensed products in your local gym? I'd totally love to see that. Wouldn't use it, though.
I think what people are worried about is that Nintendo is failing to address the problems that the Wii U and 3DS are facing. Instead they're announcing this totally different thing that nobody knows anything about. That doesn't bode well for their current and future consoles.
Right, but this announcement is besides all the things they're trying to do to fix those consoles. They're trying to jump into this new market, yeah, but that's just a side thing.
Quote from: jkid101094 on January 30, 2014, 02:34:30 PM
Right, but this announcement is besides all the things they're trying to do to fix those consoles. They're trying to jump into this new market, yeah, but that's just a side thing.
But they announced this thing at a business strategy meeting where people were expecting them to address the issues with their consoles. I don't think this is just a "side thing" for them, but at the same time they didn't actually announce anything other than some vague idea of a Nintendo health platform. Nintendo don't know what they're doing.
...but they did address the issues with their consoles.
So I don't see the issue.
It isn't like they just walked into the room, announced this and left.
Quote from: Elija2 on January 30, 2014, 02:42:10 PM
But they announced this thing at a business strategy meeting where people were expecting them to address the issues with their consoles. I don't think this is just a "side thing" for them, but at the same time they didn't actually announce anything other than some vague idea of a Nintendo health platform. Nintendo don't know what they're doing.
These guys have been in the business for a long time, have a little more faith.
Quote from: jkid101094 on January 30, 2014, 02:44:05 PM
...but they did address the issues with their consoles.
So I don't see the issue.
It isn't like they just walked into the room, announced this and left.
They didn't though. They acknowledged that there are issues (like they have for the past year) but they offered no solutions. Actually, even worse. The solution that they offered was to keep doing what they're currently doing and eventually people will see how great the Wii U is. Nintendo are blind.
Well if you were Iwata what would you do?
Quote from: jkid101094 on January 30, 2014, 02:53:30 PM
Well if you were Iwata what would you do?
Make a new console that is actually competitive against the competition. Improve third-party relations. Release some small games on iOS to make investors happy.
Quote from: Elija2 on January 30, 2014, 02:58:24 PM
Make a new console that is actually competitive against the competition.
And piss off literally
everyone who bought or is developing for the Wii U. If anything that's going to fuck their image up even more.
Quote from: Elija2 on January 30, 2014, 02:58:24 PM
Improve third-party relations.
Which is what they're doing.
Quote from: Elija2 on January 30, 2014, 02:58:24 PM
Release some small games on iOS to make investors happy.
And they've admitted to being up in the air about this, apparently.
Quote from: Elija2 on January 30, 2014, 02:58:24 PM
Make a new console that is actually competitive against the competition. Improve third-party relations. Release some small games on iOS to make investors happy.
You want them to pull a SEGA?
Quote from: jkid101094 on January 30, 2014, 03:01:24 PM
And piss off literally everyone who bought or is developing for the Wii U. If anything that's going to fuck their image up even more.
They can wait out the Wii U and take the loss for a couple more years, but their next console needs to be a beast.
Quote from: jkid101094 on January 30, 2014, 03:01:24 PM
Which is what they're doing.
No they're not. They're literally saying "We'll let third-parties come to us" which obviously hasn't been working out for them.
Quote from: jkid101094 on January 30, 2014, 03:01:24 PM
And they've admitted to being up in the air about this, apparently.
They're not going to be games though, they're going to be companion apps or something stupid like that. Nintendo need to put actual games on there. Obviously not Mario, but stuff like Art Style or Rhythm Heaven that barely have an audience on their own consoles.
Quote from: Hakudamashi on January 30, 2014, 03:04:42 PM
You want them to pull a SEGA?
Nintendo have the money to do it.
I disagree, I think what Nintendo needs is a patch to fix it's online components(make messaging easier, cloud storage, etc), be less tight laced about 3rd party developers, and market the f*ck outta it, like how they whored out the Wii, DS and 3DS.
I think they should only go to smartphones for companion apps, not games.
Quote from: Hakudamashi on January 30, 2014, 03:20:13 PM
I disagree, I think what Nintendo needs is a patch to fix it's online components(make messaging easier, cloud storage, etc), be less tight laced about 3rd party developers, and market the f*ck outta it, like how they whored out the Wii, DS and 3DS.
I think they should only go to smartphones for companion apps, not games.
That won't help, they need a fresh start. The awful online infrastructure isn't the only problem with the Wii U.
The other problem is that shit name, but they can't exactly change that without making the problem worse.
What they need is to sell Wii Us, and if the Wii and PS2 and PS Vita are anything to go by, shouting about specs and net gen doesn't sell consoles, marketing does.
Nintendo needs commercials that say "GET A WII U BECAUSE ________", and that'll be harder to do if they make a console that's doing exactly what PS4 and Xbone are doing, I think it's a little too late for that. They need to talk more about the Wii U's strengths and what makes it hip n' cool n' edgey dawg, like that off TV play thing for starters.