Super Smash bros brawl WTF?!

[skyrus5150]

HEy i just bought this game and i wanna know who created it because in story mode or adventure mode

SONIC COMES AT THE EXACTLY FINAL BOSS WTF?! IS UP WITH THAT?

Is this made by nintendo or sega?

[HereAndThere]

its both XD theirs many companys in the work on those games man

[skyrus5150]

Well whoever they are i wanna whoop their fat lazy asses for including sonic in the end
AND ALSO MAKING HIM... WTF?! TOOOOO...... WEAK

[HereAndThere]

Well whoever they are i wanna whoop their fat lazy asses for including sonic in the end
AND ALSO MAKING HIM... WTF?! TOOOOO...... WEAK

GO KILL THE ACTUAL CREATOR IF MARIO CAN KICK SONICS ASS IN THE GAME I WANNA SEE THE MAKER AND KILL HIM!!

[megasonic]

that does make me mad

[Super Empra]

ITS A NINTENDO GAME!!!
SONIC SHOULDN'T EVEN BE THERE!!!!!!

He is very very lucky that he is even in that game. ppl seriously need to stop thinkin that its a SEGA game.

[HereAndThere]

but it has all the charchter copyrights XD BUT EVRY ONE WHO LIKE SONIC SHOULD HATE NINTENDO CUZ THEIR THE REASON FOR SONICS FALL FROM THE TOP THE WENT TO 3D BEFORE SEGA AND AFTER THAT SEGA HAD TO GO TO 3D TOO AND SONIC WASNT AS GOOD AS THEN!!!!

[Super Empra]

Ninty is awesome. Who doesn't like f-zero, LoZ, metroid, fire emblem and pokemon?

[HereAndThere]

well thats true but marios the first reason that sonic went downhill

[Super Empra]

What did mario do? He didn't DO ANYTHING.

[HereAndThere]

What did mario do? He didn't DO ANYTHING.

but nintendo made sonic to race mario and then when mario went 3D he forced sonic to go 3D too thats why i dont like mario!!

[Super Empra]

but nintendo made sonic to race mario and then when mario went 3D he forced sonic to go 3D too thats why i dont like mario!!

Mario didn't make 3D. Mario went 3D because other things went 3D. its like switching from black and white to color. You can't stay 3D forever. SEGA made sonic to rival mario.

[HereAndThere]

Mario didn't make 3D. Mario went 3D because other things went 3D. its like switching from black and white to color. You can't stay 3D forever. SEGA made sonic to rival mario.

so eyery one else went 3D exepct sonic and mario so thats why it happend then destroy crash bandicoots and all the others!!!

[Super Empra]

You don't get it. Not switching would be like making black and white films. They are too old. You need to go 3D because the PS1, SATURN and N64 support 3D graphics. Its SEGA's own fault.

[HereAndThere]

You don't get it. Not switching would be like making black and white films. They are too old. You need to go 3D because the PS1, SATURN and N64 support 3D graphics. Its SEGA's own fault.

yeah but what about the megamans? only two of those are 3D

[Super Empra]

yeah but what about the megamans? only two of those are 3D

They are old games. 3D is something that every 5th, 6th and 7th generation console should have.

[HereAndThere]

They are old games. 3D is something that every 5th, 6th and 7th generation console should have.

well thats true but i still think that sonic was better as an old game but can i ask that why do every one even try to not make an 2D/3D games cuz every one only put effort to the graphics so why dont they just make super graphics?

[Super Empra]

well thats true but i still think that sonic was better as an old game but can i ask that why do every one even try to not make an 2D/3D games cuz every one only put effort to the graphics so why dont they just make super graphics?

2D is way too old. You don't see people filming with old cameras.

[skyrus5150]

Ok guys enough being off topic now

lets get on topic:
Why THE F**K DID NINTENDO EVEN INCLUDE SONIC IF THEY WANTED TO ADD HIM AT THE EXACT END I THINK THIS IS HUMILIATION FOR OUR TRUE BLUE HEDGEHOG I THINK ALL SONICZONE MEMBERS SHOULD GO WHOOP NINTENDOS BITCH A**

[Super Empra]

WHY THE F*CK ARE U WHINING? Konami begged for snake to be in that game. You should be grateful that sonic is even playable.

[skyrus5150]

I am FU**ING WHINING BECUZ INCLUDING SONIC AT THE END IS LIKE HUMILIATION FOR HIM. THEY SHOULDNT HAVE EVEN ADDED HIM IF THEY WERE GONNA DO THAT.

[Super Empra]

Go tell that to Sakourai. Fans wanted him to be in the game so they put him in. At least ninty actually listens to their fans

[ChaosDazer]

I am FU**ING WHINING BECUZ INCLUDING SONIC AT THE END IS LIKE HUMILIATION FOR HIM. THEY SHOULDNT HAVE EVEN ADDED HIM IF THEY WERE GONNA DO THAT.

Your saying your wouldn't want his awsomeness in the game to play as?


D=

[RedCap-BlueSpikes]

HEy i just bought this game and i wanna know who created it because in story mode or adventure mode

SONIC COMES AT THE EXACTLY FINAL BOSS WTF?! IS UP WITH THAT?

Is this made by nintendo or sega?

WELL, sonic plays the most IMPORTANT part in the story! he SAVED EVERYONE,
without him the world of SMASH would be gone. and anyways, why
would you not want him to do what no other SMASH character did and humiliate them.
also, the head of sega and the creator of the game worked on what
part sonic was going to come in, and sega wanted sonic to come at the end.
and this game is made by HAL lab's head and NINTENDO. so yeah. nuff said

[JetTheHawk]

guys calm down, Sonic should not even be in there because its made By Nintendo. And yes i know that Sonic saved the day when Tabuu was ganna turn them all into Trophies again but even if sonic wasn't in there someone else would have saved the day pretty much like the un used characters in SSE: Toon Link JigglyPuff, And Wolf.

[HereAndThere]

well i wish he would be more stronger he should even be more stronger than the final boss and he could change in to super sonic for a combo then he would truly kick ass!!!!

[shadowDOESrock]

HEy i just bought this game and i wanna know who created it because in story mode or adventure mode

SONIC COMES AT THE EXACTLY FINAL BOSS WTF?! IS UP WITH THAT?

Is this made by nintendo or sega?

he saved all nintendo charackters, even SNAAAAKE, [he hates sonic ya know]!

THAT AWESOME! He's Not Week, its a charackter you play no with direct hits! play with speeds and dodgeing, you'll be pretty good with him! but takes a----LOT to be very good with him!

[RedCap-BlueSpikes]

guys calm down, Sonic should not even be in there because its made By Nintendo. And yes i know that Sonic saved the day when Tabuu was ganna turn them all into Trophies again but even if sonic wasn't in there someone else would have saved the day pretty much like the un used characters in SSE: Toon Link JigglyPuff, And Wolf.

i guess then mario & sonic at the olympic games shouldint have mario characters SINCE IT WAS
MADE BY SEGA! with shigerus(he made 90% of nintendos games) supervision of course
but sega supervised sonics moves and the way he acts in brawl. be glad they added him in.
and if it was not for stupid sega shadow would be play-able too. they even have pictures
of him(shadow) flying around with pikachu and other SMASH contestents, its true. you
have to hack brawl in order to find them though and they also left shadows bio in there too.
nuff said POINT MADE!

[JetTheHawk]

well i wish he would be more stronger he should even be more stronger than the final boss and he could change in to super sonic for a combo then he would truly kick ass!!!!

Sonic doesn't have weak combos you know. He has the best combos to make actually and the second is Wolf

[RedCap-BlueSpikes]

Sonic doesn't have weak combos you know. He has the best combos to make actually and the second is Wolf

what the man says is true.

NOTE:i play sonic so i know what im talking about

[JetTheHawk]

what the man says is true.

NOTE:i play sonic so i know what im talking about

Yep whut im saying is true, guys don't think that Sonic really sucks in that thing and don't say that Sonic is too cheap in it. He just can trigger many combos but that isn't cheap

[skyrus5150]

Ok u guys win but still he is weak in that game...seriously i have brawl so i know wat i am talking about... all he does is SPINS and just a few kicks.and thats it.

[HereAndThere]

Yep whut im saying is true, guys don't think that Sonic really sucks in that thing and don't say that Sonic is too cheap in it. He just can trigger many combos but that isn't cheap

i mean that if he could do a super combo to become super sonic for 1-10 seconds like in fighters for the hyper mode

[shadowDOESrock]

i guess then mario & sonic at the olympic games shouldint have mario characters SINCE IT WAS
MADE BY SEGA! with shigerus(he made 90% of nintendos games) supervision of course
but sega supervised sonics moves and the way he acts in brawl. be glad they added him in.
and if it was not for stupid sega shadow would be play-able too. they even have pictures
of him(shadow) flying around with pikachu and other SMASH contestents, its true. you
have to hack brawl in order to find them though and they also left shadows bio in there too.
nuff said POINT MADE!

idiot! Seriously!

Super Smash Bothers Brawl - Fighting game with Nintendo Chars.
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games - Its MARIO AND SONIC, >_>

[skyrus5150]

I dont see where this is going to.

[shadowDOESrock]

I dont see where this is going to.

to a Nintendo vs. SEGA fight! >_>

[Super Empra]

SEGA VS Nintendo fight?
What for? SSBB is a NINTENDO game, therefore sonic is lucky that he is even in it. Its only because he was the most wanted character. STOP WHINING!

[skyrus5150]

Ok we stopped whining about that but we are whining that why he is so weak... i mean all he does is SPINS and a few kicks and punches

[Super Empra]

Ok we stopped whining about that but we are whining that why he is so weak... i mean all he does is SPINS and a few kicks and punches

What other moves does sonic have? He doesn't do anything else. And he ain't weak, your probably not good at him

[JetTheHawk]

Ok we stopped whining about that but we are whining that why he is so weak... i mean all he does is SPINS and a few kicks and punches

Dude ya  Sonic Has Kicks and punches but they are all different moves

[RedCap-BlueSpikes]

idiot! Seriously!

Super Smash Bothers Brawl - Fighting game with Nintendo Chars.
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games - Its MARIO AND SONIC, >_>

yeah, but nintendo said brawl was going to have SNAKE!
and snake is konami, and what did i do to you? i did not
go and say YOUR retarded. jeez, dude its not that serious

[JetTheHawk]

yeah, but nintendo said brawl was going to have SNAKE!
and snake is konami, and what did i do to you? i did not
go and say YOUR retarded. jeez, dude its not that serious

Guess he just got kinda mad or something

[RedCap-BlueSpikes]

Guess he just got kinda mad or something

man, i thought FLAME was not allowed here anyways!

[Hakudamashi]

SONIC COMES AT THE EXACTLY FINAL BOSS WTF?! IS UP WITH THAT?

Cause he is the Jesus of the smash world

[JetTheHawk]

Cause he is the Jesus of the smash world

Damn Straight about the one Wind.

[xaio]

LISTEN UP!!! i red the furst page, not the second(screw the second page), and MARIO IS THE REASON SONIC IS HERE!!! listen, SEGA was bored one day, and made sonic and mario rivals, k?? so, this is SEGA'S  you hear me???

S-E-G-A-'-S - F-A-U-L-Tyou hearin me???so stop bitchin plz, not to be mean, but srsly, snake came in like, towards the middle( or somewere) and lucario found his konami ass, but the konami fans didn't scream about it. sonic is f*kin awesome, so they sed " WAT IF SONIC COMES IN AT THE END??!!!!THAT'S WOULD BE PWNING AWESOM!!!so you better be happy they consider sonic the fast mario, or else my life would suck, and i wuld not be writing this k?? BE F*KIN HAPPY MARIO'S JUST HERE!!

[RedCap-BlueSpikes]

LISTEN UP!!! i red the furst page, not the second(screw the second page), and MARIO IS THE REASON SONIC IS HERE!!! listen, SEGA was bored one day, and made sonic and mario rivals, k?? so, this is SEGA'S  you hear me???

S-E-G-A-'-S - F-A-U-L-Tyou hearin me???so stop bitchin plz, not to be mean, but srsly, snake came in like, towards the middle( or somewere) and lucario found his konami ass, but the konami fans didn't scream about it. sonic is f*kin awesome, so they sed " WAT IF SONIC COMES IN AT THE END??!!!!THAT'S WOULD BE PWNING AWESOM!!!so you better be happy they consider sonic the fast mario, or else my life would suck, and i wuld not be writing this k?? BE F*KIN HAPPY MARIO'S JUST HERE!!

lawl teh wut?

[Super Empra]

Sonic in only in this game because nintendo listens to their fans.

[skyrus5150]

What other moves does sonic have? He doesn't do anything else. And he ain't weak, your probably not good at him

U SOUND LIKE U WANNA BRAWL

OK LETS DO IT ... I WILL PLAY WITH SONIC AND U CAN PLAY WITH ANY OTHERE CHARACTER LIKE Fox Wolf Pit ETC.

SO DO U WANNA DO IT?

[Super Empra]

U SOUND LIKE U WANNA BRAWL

OK LETS DO IT ... I WILL PLAY WITH SONIC AND U CAN PLAY WITH ANY OTHERE CHARACTER LIKE Fox Wolf Pit ETC.

SO DO U WANNA DO IT?

Do I wanna do it? What could be more fun than beating you at brawl

[skyrus5150]

oK wHEN wIll We Do It? and also tell me how do i get my Friend Code

[Super Empra]

oK wHEN wIll We Do It? and also tell me how do i get my Friend Code

Go to your your friend roster on nintendo wifi on brawl. It should say it at the top.

[skyrus5150]

Do i need An internet connection?

[NeoMetalSonic]

so? What's wrong with that? He comes at the best part

[SonicFan47]

I have the answer to this.

The game was produced by Sora, published by Nintendo, and certain elements were O.K.ed by Sega and Konami.

The reason that Sonic doesn't appear until the very end of the Subspace Emissary is because he was actually about the last thing programmed into the game. Like programmed into the game in the last two or three months.

That help any?

[Super Empra]

Do i need An internet connection?

Yes, you do.

[duzduzduz]

that is the best part he saves everyone in the entire world

[HereAndThere]

i just noticed that this is a hot topic and i mean that ppl are talking about WII and SSBB i dont have neither one T_T the price is too high

[skyrus5150]

Aww too bad for jeeeeeeeeeeeeeexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[HereAndThere]

Save up ur money then.

i dont get money even from working expect 5 cents T_T plus i dont get anything expect yelling if i want to buy a new cosole T_T thats why i use emus but my sis yells at me for the comp to be too solw T_T so i cant get new emus or consoles 

[skyrus5150]

MAN THATS GOTTA BE ROUGH.

[HereAndThere]

MAN THATS GOTTA BE ROUGH.

its is plus  i only got 4 sonic games on my PS2 and computer 2 good sonic games T_T the games are sonic gems collection, sonic uleashed and sonic riders 1 and zero gravity plus i have a game borrowed from my friend but it dosent count

[SlashXVI]

Well, Obviusly if Sonic is in it they have to be working together in some kind of epic mega ultra colab...But they should have atleasted made Sonic come out a little earlyer in the game  .

[skyrus5150]

Yeah Skyle You are saying exactly my thoughts.

[SonicFan47]

LISTEN UP!!! i red the furst page, not the second(screw the second page), and MARIO IS THE REASON SONIC IS HERE!!! listen, SEGA was bored one day, and made sonic and mario rivals, k?? so, this is SEGA'S  you hear me???

S-E-G-A-'-S - F-A-U-L-Tyou hearin me???so stop bitchin plz, not to be mean, but srsly, snake came in like, towards the middle( or somewere) and lucario found his konami ass, but the konami fans didn't scream about it. sonic is f*kin awesome, so they sed " WAT IF SONIC COMES IN AT THE END??!!!!THAT'S WOULD BE PWNING AWESOM!!!so you better be happy they consider sonic the fast mario, or else my life would suck, and i wuld not be writing this k?? BE F*KIN HAPPY MARIO'S JUST HERE!!

Actually, SEGA didn't make the rivalry. (And, no, Sonic Team didn't either.)
The Sonic/Mario rivalry was started by the fans.
But yes, the reason that Sonic is here because of Mario.
Time: Late 1980's
Setting: The video game Market. SEGA and Nintendo are the only real competitors at this point and Nintendo is sweeping the market. SEGA wasn't doing too well with their first mascot (being Alex Kidd) so they decided to push another project (being the Sonic games) to the front.
It was a fairly large gamble on SEGA's part because if this experiment is successful, then they have a new weapon against the big N. If it bombs, SEGA's spot in the industry could go with it.
As for Sonic coming in so late in SSE, this is from the Smash Brothers Wiki (the original page has links to the sources).

"Sakurai stated that he did not want to emphasize Japan-only characters; in Brawl's cast, only Marth and Lucas have not appeared outside of Japan (with the exception of Marth in Melee). Sakurai also stated there would be no more than three third-party characters; these characters were Snake and Sonic. The inclusion of Konami-created character Solid Snake may seem to conflict with the Super Smash Bros. paradigm — to only include characters from games made by Nintendo and its second parties — but Sakurai said Hideo Kojima "practically begged" for Snake to be included in Melee, which did not happen because the game was too far in development. This in turn led to his appearance in the following game instead. Similarly, Lucas from Mother 3 was intended to be used in Melee, but was left out because Mother 3 was delayed.

Japanese fans were asked to submit their desired characters and musical themes via a forum on the game's official Japanese site, with some possibly appearing in the game. Likewise, fans from other countries were asked to submit ideas on Nintendo's official forums.

Suggestions were no longer being taken as of June 9, 2006. In August 2006, Sakurai and Miyamoto stated that Nintendo was negotiating rights to other third-party characters. The most requested third-party character, Sega's Sonic the Hedgehog, was announced to be in the game on October 10, 2007."

That information can be found here:
Discussion of Sonic's popularity: http://wii.qj.net/Sakurai-and-Miyamoto-Comment-on-Sonic-s-Popularity/pg/49/aid/62240
Fan-Filled Roster: http://wii.ign.com/articles/707/707671p1.html
The whole wiki article: http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl

If they were lobbying for rights from SEGA/Sonic Team, it could have taken a while to get Sonic in the game.
So....
I guess you're right. It is SEGA's fault that Sonic is so late in SSE.

[skyrus5150]

Soo... Sonic Is their because of sonics fanss?

[Super Empra]

Soo... Sonic Is their because of sonics fanss?

And because nintendo listen to their fans unlike sonic team.

[skyrus5150]

So... Sonic Team is the bad guy in here?

[HereAndThere]

So... Sonic Team is the bad guy in here?

its starting to look like it

[skyrus5150]

aWWW man . DAMMIT.

[SonicFan47]

So... Sonic Team is the bad guy in here?

Wait, what?
I think that you guys lost me...

[skyrus5150]

Why do u say that sonicfan47.

[SonicFan47]

I say that because the conversation between you, jeexx, and Super Empra makes little or no sense to me anymore.
Explain, please.

[skyrus5150]

YEAH SORRY FOR THOSE TOPLESS CONVERSATIONS.

[nazo unleashed]

WHY THE F*CK ARE U WHINING? Konami begged for snake to be in that game. You should be grateful that sonic is even playable.

YEA TRUE THEY DID but they (no lie) actulay begged for ryu and ken to be in there.

[Super Empra]

YEA TRUE THEY DID but they (no lie) actulay begged for ryu and ken to be in there.

Well, actually they begged for snake to be in melee. So they put him in brawl.

[skyrus5150]

hey is melee on wii cuz i am thinking about buying it.

[Super Empra]

hey is melee on wii cuz i am thinking about buying it.

Its on gamecube but you can play it on your wii. All you need is a gamecube memory card and gamecube controller.

[HereAndThere]

I say that because the conversation between you, jeexx, and Super Empra makes little or no sense to me anymore.
Explain, please.

YEAH SORRY FOR THOSE TOPLESS CONVERSATIONS.

ya blame us oh boy weve been telling (all of us who have been in this topic) THAT SEGA HAS SOLD SONIC IN THAT AND HES THERE JUST FOR THOSE WHO LIKE SONIC AND MARIO!!!!!  and you and i make a WHOLE TOPIC in to our conversation so ya blaming me and super 

[SonicFan47]

ya blame us oh boy weve been telling (all of us who have been in this topic) THAT SEGA HAS SOLD SONIC IN THAT AND HES THERE JUST FOR THOSE WHO LIKE SONIC AND MARIO!!!!!  and you and i make a WHOLE TOPIC in to our conversation so ya blaming me and super 

Sold Sonic in what?
You still aren't making sense to me...

[HereAndThere]

Sold Sonic in what?
You still aren't making sense to me...

SEGA HAS ALMOST SOLD SONIC TO NINTENDO!!!!!

[SonicFan47]

SEGA HAS ALMOST SOLD SONIC TO NINTENDO!!!!!

Really!
Explain Sonic 06 and SU on the 360 and PS3, then.

[HereAndThere]

Really!
Explain Sonic 06 and SU on the 360 and PS3, then.

think it like this all the new sonic games that have been released have also been on wii like SRZG SU SATBK and SATSR

[Super Empra]

think it like this all the new sonic games that have been released have also been on wii like SRZG SU SATBK and SATSR

Thats probably because SEGA think they can make more money by putting them onto wii. They wouldn't have to worry about good graphics.

[HereAndThere]

Thats probably because SEGA think they can make more money by putting them onto wii. They wouldn't have to worry about good graphics.

but wii has only as much graphics as the PS2 but those games were made on wii cause of the controls

[Super Empra]

but wii has only as much graphics as the PS2 but those games were made on wii cause of the controls

Good point. All SEGA need to do is add motion and the people will buy the games. They are more likely to sell on wii.

[HereAndThere]

Good point. All SEGA need to do is add motion and the people will buy the games. They are more likely to sell on wii.

yeah thats true too

[SonicFan47]

but wii has only as much graphics as the PS2 but those games were made on wii cause of the controls

Actually, the Wii can have graphics as good as the PS3/360, but due to the space that motion sensitive programming takes, they choose the "gameplay over graphics".

[Super Empra]

Actually, the Wii can have graphics as good as the PS3/360, but due to the space that motion sensitive programming takes, they choose the "gameplay over graphics".

So your saying that the Wii's GPU and CPU are capable of that? How can that be possible?

[SonicFan47]

So your saying that the Wii's GPU and CPU are capable of that? How can that be possible?

Easily.
I'm not sure how to explain it, but it's true.
Motion sensitive programming takes up a ton of disc space, hence the reason that most Wii games don't have the PS3/360 graphics.
Of course, some Wii games aren't motion sensitive (go figure), but those usually have more than one control style (SSBB) or a lot of bonus stuff.

[skyrus5150]

DBZ budokai tenkaichi 3 has motion sensing that is epic  fun.

[HereAndThere]

DBZ budokai tenkaichi 3 has motion sensing that is epic  fun.

so ya play BT3 (the wii version right?) is it hard or fun? ppl say that its harder then on PS2 but its not true my friends PS2 has got a relly good mind OF ITS OWN hercules (the ultimate challenge one) did 10000 damage with every super move so yah its harder on PS2 it has harder to control harddrive and other stuff

[skyrus5150]

Its much easier on the wii once you get the hang of it.

[HereAndThere]

Its much easier on the wii once you get the hang of it.

thats what ppl dont get always on PS2 your console creates more data of your own skills and uses em against you (happened to me many times) but wii hasnt got enough spaces in its harddirve cause of the wii remote nunchak GC controller and other plus controllers

[Super Empra]

Easily.
I'm not sure how to explain it, but it's true.
Motion sensitive programming takes up a ton of disc space, hence the reason that most Wii games don't have the PS3/360 graphics.
Of course, some Wii games aren't motion sensitive (go figure), but those usually have more than one control style (SSBB) or a lot of bonus stuff.

Disc space doesn't make graphics better. They may allow for higher resolution textures but not much else. Graphics rely on the GPU and CPU. Disc space hardly makes any difference. If it did, then PS3 games would look by far the best but they don't.

[HereAndThere]

Actually, the Wii can have graphics as good as the PS3/360, but due to the space that motion sensitive programming takes, they choose the "gameplay over graphics".

if it does why doesnt sonic look as cool as in the PS3/360 version?

Disc space doesn't make graphics better. They may allow for higher resolution textures but not much else. Graphics rely on the GPU and CPU. Disc space hardly makes any difference. If it did, then PS3 games would look by far the best but they don't.

i agree with that statement

[SonicFan47]

if it does why doesnt sonic look as cool as in the PS3/360 version?

In which game?

[HereAndThere]

In which game?

sonic unleashed of course!!!

[SonicFan47]

sonic unleashed of course!!!

It's because the Wii version is the PS2 version, graphics and all.
The only real difference is that Sonic has a glow/reflective effect on the Wii version.

[HereAndThere]

It's because the Wii version is the PS2 version, graphics and all.
The only real difference is that Sonic has a glow/reflective effect on the Wii version.

hmm true but did you also know that wiis memory and hard drive cannot be compered to PS2s cause of its data? ive prooven that a PS2 has got its own mind for those games your relly good at like me at DBZ BT3 my PS2 still owns me with easy when im going against kid goku (the utlimate one) in 100 battles and i get pwned so so hard that the wii cant be compered to PS2 expect in the controls

[Super Empra]

hmm true but did you also know that wiis memory and hard drive cannot be compered to PS2s cause of its data? ive prooven that a PS2 has got its own mind for those games your relly good at like me at DBZ BT3 my PS2 still owns me with easy when im going against kid goku (the utlimate one) in 100 battles and i get pwned so so hard that the wii cant be compered to PS2 expect in the controls

But the wii is more powerful than PS2 and has better graphics.

[JetTheHawk]

Uh guys can you please stay on topic.....

[HereAndThere]

But the wii is more powerful than PS2 and has better graphics.

well only a little

Uh guys can you please stay on topic.....

but this topic should be locked cause kiler has got the point a long time ago but decided too keep it unlocked

[skyrus5150]

there is no need to lock this because you can discuss stuff about brawl in here. and since this is a very hot topic..lets begin.

[xaio]

sonic rocks so welly, i can kick my older brother's @$$ in that game wit sonic, and he's GOOD

[skyrus5150]

but my friend kicks my @$$ with fox..but sometimes i pwn him when i go super sonic.

[Zonic10]

God, I know how u feel. I was waiting to use Sonic against other boss fights, and bam! I had to wait til the end. Nintendo is so cheap......

[Hakudamashi]

God, I know how u feel. I was waiting to use Sonic against other boss fights, and bam! I had to wait til the end. Nintendo is so cheap......

It's SEGA's fault,not Nintendo's

[HereAndThere]

It's SEGA's fault,not Nintendo's

more of segas than nintendos nintendo could have made sonic a little better

[Hakudamashi]

more of segas than nintendos nintendo could have made sonic a little better

better how?

[HereAndThere]

better how?

stronger faster more attacks etc.

[Hakudamashi]

stronger faster more attacks etc.

stronger-He's strong enough
faster-r u serious?
more attacks-such as?

[HereAndThere]

stronger-He's strong enough
faster-r u serious?
more attacks-such as?

stronger:ok
faster:yes
attacks:like that sonic wind or whatever it was that was in SA2B as sonics special attack and that wave sonic shoots in battle and spin-to-the-ring dash

[Hakudamashi]

stronger:ok
faster:yes
attacks:like that sonic wind or whatever it was that was in SA2B as sonics special attack and that wave sonic shoots in battle and spin-to-the-ring dash

Faster:Any faster and I'll have more fails than Final Fantasy 7's fanbase ._.
Attacks:For which buttons?

[HereAndThere]

Faster:Any faster and I'll have more fails than Final Fantasy 7's fanbase ._.
Attacks:For which buttons?

attacks:combos do the right combos and those moves would be good finishes
faster:FFIIV was a good game and sonic would be more popular if nintendo would also show what sonic can do so ppl would buy SAMOG

[Hakudamashi]

attacks:combos do the right combos and those moves would be good finishes
faster:FFIIV was a good game and sonic would be more popular if nintendo would also show what sonic can do so ppl would buy SAMOG

Attacks:You DO know the characters are all limited to the same button patterns right?You gotta be specific,like  Up B,Down A(If you've played it,yo know what I mean)
Faster:I'm talking about it's fanbase

[HereAndThere]

F:ok
A:well like A B up down and tap B fast

[Hakudamashi]

F:ok
A:well like A B up down and tap B fast

A: -_-....you've never played Smash Bros. have you?

[HereAndThere]

Q:why is that? i played it on emu but never could actually play it fully cuz it was slow so yah never got the hang of it so i have played it but barley and also did ya know that every fighting game has one thing that is useful own combos i got a super fast killing combo in STF and SBand all those so yah i have played SSBB but it lagged like hell on dolphin so yah i have played it but only 1 hour at one fight XD

[JetTheHawk]

Well if any of you say "Sonic is the best in SSBB, I can beat my friend with him" Then i would happily like congrats you with the official "NO SKILL PLAYER"

[Hakudamashi]

Well if any of you say "Sonic is the best in SSBB, I can beat my friend with him" Then i would happily like congrats you with the official "NO SKILL PLAYER"

Your saying Sonic sux?Cause won Tournaments(over Gamefaqs) with him

[skyrus5150]

youve won tournaments with sonic? wind?

[JetTheHawk]

Your saying Sonic sux?Cause won Tournaments(over Gamefaqs) with him

Yes Sonic does suck. He has no damn skill.

[skyrus5150]

yeah.... he SPINS AND SPINS AND SPINS... super sonic is pretty gud though.

[skyrus5150]

DAMMIT STOP THE FU*K*NG SPAMMING.jasongms

[NiGHTS]

Your saying Sonic sux?Cause won Tournaments(over Gamefaqs) with him

jigglypuff fully owns sonic every time 

[skyrus5150]

what... jigglypufff is soooo sucky in that game.

[NiGHTS]

what... jigglypufff is soooo sucky in that game.

please no lying in the forums
but anyways jigglypuff is ossum end of dicussion he owns sonic as do most chars if used properly 

[blazerh44]

Sonic isn't bad, you just gotta know how to use him properly. I own as Sonic, but only cuz I know how to use him right

[xaio]

yeah i can PWN WITH SONIC!!especially at getting to smash ball!! also, (this is humiliating) my little brother (5 years old) beat me, adn my 13 year old cousin wit sonic!!!! so if a 5-year old can take down a 12 year old, adn a 13-year old, then sonic is the MOST POWERFULL AND AWESOM CHARACTER!!!

[Mikey]

Nintendo. They hate sonic.

[SonicLover25]

Sonic Owns!And Nintendo Only Hates Him Because He's More Wicked Than Mario!

[NiGHTS]

i dont really like sonic hes more of a spam char you know run around spin jump run around spin die....

but other spam chars may include meta knight pit kirby pikachu olimar and many more... ( I admit to lucas PK thunder spam xD )

[blazerh44]

Sonic may be a spam character, but hey he does a good job at it!

And Meta Knight is also an awesome character if you know how to use him

[JetTheHawk]

Sonic is a spam character in that game. he sucks.

[Hakudamashi]

Sonic is a spam character in that game. he sucks.

I've beaten you with him,time and time again
If he sux,you suck

[JetTheHawk]

I've beaten you with him,time and time again
If he sux,you suck

Wrong . I don't suck. I hardly use him. I use Falco mostly. All of Sonic's moves are cheap but most people don't realize that, I had to block like 40 people from my friend code list for using Sonic ALL THE DAMN TIME ._.

[Hakudamashi]

Wrong . I don't suck. I hardly use him. I use Falco mostly. All of Sonic's moves are cheap but most people don't realize that, I had to block like 40 people from my friend code list for using Sonic ALL THE DAMN TIME ._.

Just cause you cant use him effectively,doesn't make him cheap/suck
Thats like Saying Snake is the worst character cause I can't use him

Sonic doesn't suck,you suck using Sonic and I suggest you remove me from your list too if ur gonna be like that

[sonicrulez947]

....i guess i agree plus they didnt even give him good moves....OMG THEY F**KING SUCK!!!

[NiGHTS]

Well generally spam chars like sonic and meta arnt hard to pwn with cause its easy to win through their spam although occasionally you do find the odd online non-spam sonic but very rarely lol

[Hakudamashi]

....i guess i agree plus they didnt even give him good moves....OMG THEY F**KING SUCK!!!

His moves are fine to me

[JetTheHawk]

....i guess i agree plus they didnt even give him good moves....OMG THEY F**KING SUCK!!!

He has cheap moves thats what.

[NiGHTS]

as in you can use them over and over and not much can be done at times i think o_0

[shadowDOESrock]

He has cheap moves thats what.

no.  the moves are good. Sonic is made not as a Stand and fight char. He's Dash And Fight Char.

[JetTheHawk]

no.  the moves are good. Sonic is made not as a Stand and fight char. He's Dash And Fight Char.

I tend to disagree, his speed makes almost everything cheap, his moves occur to fast, his attacks are easy to combo. need I say more?

[Hakudamashi]

I tend to disagree, his speed makes almost everything cheap, his moves occur to fast, his attacks are easy to combo. need I say more?

Why are you deleting my posts(Well someone is)

And I disagree to your disagreement,His moves themselves are average speed
Compare Sonic's forward smash to Kirby's

[NiGHTS]

Why are you deleting my posts(Well someone is)

And I disagree to your disagreement,His moves themselves are average speed
Compare Sonic's forward smash to Kirby's

well i have to admit i find kirby to be worse >_< but anyway it all depends on
A) your opinion
B) who is using the character

[Mr.Z]

i always try my absolute hardest not to spam with sonic but its really hard...hes got no killing moves, as for meta i never spam with him i always mix it up

[Hakudamashi]

i always try my absolute hardest not to spam with sonic but its really hard...hes got no killing moves

forward smash
downward smash
back air
up air

he has enough killing moves

[Link233]

I think Nintendo even though because It has a bunch of random charactors from sega and nintendo but mostly nintendo Well i wish itmwas made from sega because nintendo has lots of baby games =P

[Hakudamashi]

I It has a bunch of random charactors from sega

name 2

[NiGHTS]

name 2

1 sonic
2 shadow ( assist trophy) you never said they had to be useable characters

[toonchaos77]

lol who cares overall SSBB ownz its a really awesomeness game 

[Hakudamashi]

1 sonic
2 shadow ( assist trophy) you never said they had to be useable characters

aaahhhh,loop holes

alrighy,betcha can't name a third one

[NiGHTS]

aaahhhh,loop holes

alrighy,betcha can't name a third one

blaze the cat (trophy) lol

[Hakudamashi]

blaze the cat (trophy) lol

alrighty then Mr.wise guy

name one thats not Sonic

[toonchaos77]

alrighty then Mr.wise guy

name one thats not Sonic

ahh that one monkey guys remember the one with the muchachas (trophy)

[Hakudamashi]

ahh that one monkey guys remember the one with the muchachas (trophy)

AMIGO'S IN IT!!!?

how do you get it?

[toonchaos77]

AMIGO'S IN IT!!!?

how do you get it?

idk i have all trpohies ive played game for like 200 hours cause i have a big famliy and everyone always plays game its epic

[Hakudamashi]

idk i have all trpohies ive played game for like 200 hours cause i have a big famliy and everyone always plays game its epic

aaahhh,bummer 
but your sure he's in there?

[toonchaos77]

aaahhh,bummer 
but your sure he's in there?

im pretty sure he is i dont even know what he is what game is he in?

[Hakudamashi]

im pretty sure he is i dont even know what he is what game is he in?

Samba de Amigo 

[toonchaos77]

Samba de Amigo 

lol is he/she awesomeness like sonic/shadow

[Hakudamashi]

lol is he/she awesomeness like sonic/shadow

1.He's a he
2.I dunno,haven't played it

[toonchaos77]

1.He's a he
2.I dunno,haven't played it

lol ok anyway i have a question can u chat with other members on this website?

[Hakudamashi]

lol ok anyway i have a question can u chat with other members on this website?

on the main site,theres a little chatbox on the right

[toonchaos77]

on the main site,theres a little chatbox on the right

oh cause i wanted to chat with u lol

[NiGHTS]

oh cause i wanted to chat with u lol

you can always use the messaging thing on the site

[toonchaos77]

you can always use the messaging thing on the site

yeah ur right ill add him brb

[Sonicteen12]

You can unlock in classic mode by completing it with ten different characters.But seriously WHY at the END!?!?!
When I got it my sister and I played for a month before unlocking Sonic and defeating the final boss >:(Oh well

[Hakudamashi]

You can unlock in classic mode by completing it with ten different characters.But seriously WHY at the END!?!?!
When I got it my sister and I played for a month before unlocking Sonic and defeating the final boss >:(Oh well

"The hero always comes at the last minute"

[toonchaos77]

"The hero always comes at the last minute"

lol its sucks that knux and tails arent assist trophies 

[Hakudamashi]

lol its sucks that knux and tails arent assist trophies 

it does doesn't it?
but at least they appear

[toonchaos77]

it does doesn't it?
but at least they appear

:O oh yeah thats right they appear in green hill zone silver appears too 

[Hakudamashi]

:O oh yeah thats right they appear in green hill zone silver appears too 

and they're trophies 

[Link233]

yeah chaos is right i played that game for hours and its not amigo its dixie kong and funky kong 

[Hakudamashi]

yeah chaos is right i played that game for hours and its not amigo its dixie kong and funky kong 

oh well 
I already have them

[toonchaos77]

oh well 
I already have them

no i just checked its amigo i swear there is

[Hakudamashi]

no i just checked its amigo i swear there is

does he look like this?

[toonchaos77]

does he look like this?

lol yes and OMG NO IT COULDNT BE ITS THE M M M MUCHACHA :O

[Hakudamashi]

lol yes and OMG NO IT COULDNT BE ITS THE M M M MUCHACHA :O

lolno
His name is Amigo

[toonchaos77]

lolno
His name is Amigo

no i mean the stuff that are in his hands

[Hakudamashi]

no i mean the stuff that are in his hands

I think they're called murracos or something

so how do I get his trophy?

[toonchaos77]

I think they're called murracos or something

so how do I get his trophy?

here let me research it for u ok m8

[Hakudamashi]

here let me research it for u ok m8

ok *waits patiently* 

[Hakudamashi]

yh i no when i was playing it i thought i'd missed a stage where he comes in but he comes on final level which he fials at becuase his best atk is homing and that make him fly off and get k0'd while snake come fairly at the middle which i think they should off done the other way around

ALSO THEY SHOULD OF MADE A CUTSCENE WERE HE GOES SUPERSONIC AND PWNS THAT STUPID BOLDY >.<

tha
thats to epic to be in a video game

[Hakudamashi]

well they could of tried and hit the charts 

SSBB is epic enough already
and...ew?

[HereAndThere]

i dont belive it.... this is the lognest off topic/chat topic  theres off topicness and chatting about a random game

[toonchaos77]

i dont belive it.... this is the lognest off topic/chat topic  theres off topicness and chatting about a random game

what are u talking about what random game they were talking about SSBB and they only went off topic a few times

[HereAndThere]

what are u talking about what random game they were talking about SSBB and they only went off topic a few times

sometimes ppl (like me) change the game in this topic go a little back in the topic ike 2-4 pages and also me and kiler went way off topic

[toonchaos77]

sometimes ppl (like me) change the game in this topic go a little back in the topic ike 2-4 pages and also me and kiler went way off topic

lol anyway .................. so yeah sonic is a pretty good character but hes hard to control when u use his finla smash hes too fast

[Hakudamashi]

lol anyway .................. so yeah sonic is a pretty good character but hes hard to control when u use his finla smash hes too fast

I can control him easy
it just take practice,as with any other character

[toonchaos77]

I can control him easy
it just take practice,as with any other character

i wish i could i mean who moves too fast one i kept going right and flew out of screen and died

[JetTheHawk]

Super Sonic is the cheapest of all, about 40 damage per hit, and I don't need anyone objecting me on this one.


That "thing" in Samba's hands are Marracas.

[toonchaos77]

Super Sonic is the cheapest of all, about 40 damage per hit, and I don't need anyone objecting me on this one.


That "thing" in Samba's hands are Marracas.

i thought his name was amigo?

[NiGHTS]

samba de amigo = game
amigo = marracas spanish monkey

[toonchaos77]

sometimes i wish there was an app on the wii where u could play music cds from brawl and out them in the background 

[Hakudamashi]

Super Sonic is the cheapest of all, about 40 damage per hit, and I don't need anyone objecting me on this one.


That "thing" in Samba's hands are Marracas.

I kinda find Negative Zone or Falco's/Wolf's Landmaster to be cheaper than Super Sonic >.<
heck,even Ganondorf's  FS(especially with the combo my cousin made ._.)

Then again,Super Sonic IS the longest lasting FS 

[DJ Boredom]

Always thought it was Mr. Game & Watch with the longest FS....

but anyways, don't expect sonic to be god, i don't think sega is gonna make it where sonic can strangle his opponents with a ring.

I do like this about sonic:

[Hakudamashi]

Always thought it was Mr. Game & Watch with the longest FS....

but anyways, don't expect sonic to be god, i don't think sega is gonna make it where sonic can strangle his opponents with a ring.

I do like this about sonic:

HES DA FASTEST THING ALIVE =D

[fiamondersadx]

HEy i just bought this game and i wanna know who created it because in story mode or adventure mode

SONIC COMES AT THE EXACTLY FINAL BOSS WTF?! IS UP WITH THAT?

Is this made by nintendo or sega?

i think its great sonics the final boss cause he is finally where he belongs at the top

[RockmanAERO]

ITS A NINTENDO GAME!!!
SONIC SHOULDN'T EVEN BE THERE!!!!!!

He is very very lucky that he is even in that game. ppl seriously need to stop thinkin that its a SEGA game.

It's not a nintendo game either the game is owned by Hal Labratory
Sonic was supposed to be in SSBM with Lucas but mother 3 was delayed and for sonic IDK
but sonic showing up at the end is strage they should add in some downloadable content for a side story to thegame
that way we'll know what happened to sonic :\

[Hakudamashi]

ITS A NINTENDO GAME!!!
SONIC SHOULDN'T EVEN BE THERE!!!!!!

He is very very lucky that he is even in that game. ppl seriously need to stop thinkin that its a SEGA game.

It's not a nintendo game either the game is owned by Hal Labratory
Sonic was supposed to be in SSBM with Lucas but mother 3 was delayed and for sonic IDK
but sonic showing up at the end is strage they should add in some downloadable content for a side story to thegame
that way we'll know what happened to sonic :\

How did he get there anyway?

[Sonixz]

HEy i just bought this game and i wanna know who created it because in story mode or adventure mode

SONIC COMES AT THE EXACTLY FINAL BOSS WTF?! IS UP WITH THAT?

Is this made by nintendo or sega?

Hal Labratorys made it I think(they made Kirby)

Sonic's the most anticipated character
So Nintendo he should be hard to get instead as easy as everyone else

[SonicFan47]

How did he get there anyway?

They ran an online poll during the last 10 or 11 months of Brawl's production to see what the fans wanted for a final third-party character.
Sonic won by a landslide.

[Hakudamashi]

They ran an online poll during the last 10 or 11 months of Brawl's production to see what the fans wanted for a final third-party character.
Sonic won by a landslide.

I meant how did he get into the subspace to fight Tabuu?
Cause he didn't have the emeralds with him.....The Tornado?

[SonicFan47]

I meant how did he get into the subspace to fight Tabuu?
Cause he didn't have the emeralds with him.....The Tornado?

Oh...good question.
I don't know, maybe Tabuu absorbed part of Sonic's world in addition to the Brawl world?

[Rulep]

Hal paided Sega, for a liscence to put Sonic in the game. The same as Snake but Hal asked a different company. Hal did that because they knew it would get more buyers.

[ChaosMaster]

I don't really care how sonic got into subspace, I'm just glad he helped to come and save the day!

[SonicLover25]

Sonic=OWNAGE!

[Hakudamashi]

Oh...good question.
I don't know, maybe Tabuu absorbed part of Sonic's world in addition to the Brawl world?

then where the ef was Shadow n' co. >:C

[SonicFan47]

then where the ef was Shadow n' co. >:C

IDK, busy fighting aliens or working for the government?

[Hakudamashi]

IDK, busy fighting aliens or working for the government?

shows how much they care

[SonicFan47]

shows how much they care

Who?
The aliens, the government, or Shadow?

[Hakudamashi]

Who?
The aliens, the government, or Shadow?

the ones that don't care that they're world is about to be blasted into subspace by a blue man creature with butterfly wings
and leaving it to a simple blue animal with no balls

[Xephious]

Well whoever they are i wanna whoop their fat lazy asses for including sonic in the end
AND ALSO MAKING HIM... WTF?! TOOOOO...... WEAK

...If you are calling him weak, your not using him right. XD

[annoyinglad]

...If you are calling him weak, your not using him right. XD

No he's weak, he has no finishing moves. But he's fast, which compensates for it. Every character is equally great, it just depends on how you use them.

[SonicFan47]

No he's weak, he has no finishing moves. But he's fast, which compensates for it. Every character is equally great, it just depends on how you use them.

Some are just significantly harder to do so with.
Like Jigglypuff.
melee Jiggly FTW

[annoyinglad]

Some are just significantly harder to do so with.
Like Jigglypuff.
melee Jiggly FTW

Yes, the original Puffsta' was FTEW.

[Jordan teh Echidna]

it's just weird how jigglypuff's sleeping attack is like the most strongest attack out of all the chars @_@ (well i think it is)

And Yeah i wish they had put more of a storyline into Sonic...
(Sonic watchin teh news) "And now Super Mario has flown straight into the big purple ball!? Oh NO!! Who's going to SAVE him?! in other news...Mobius has been taken oover and now it's a giant purple ball :3 i hope you were looking outside" then sonic runs off XD

[Hakudamashi]

it's just weird how jigglypuff's sleeping attack is like the most strongest attack out of all the chars @_@ (well i think it is)

And Yeah i wish they had put more of a storyline into Sonic...
(Sonic watchin teh news) "And now Super Mario has flown straight into the big purple ball!? Oh NO!! Who's going to SAVE him?! in other news...Mobius has been taken oover and now it's a giant purple ball :3 i hope you were looking outside" then sonic runs off XD

Sounds like something Sonic Team would come up with

No he's weak, he has no finishing moves. But he's fast, which compensates for it. Every character is equally great, it just depends on how you use them.

that what do you call his Fsmash,DSmash,Bair?

[JetTheHawk]

it's just weird how jigglypuff's sleeping attack is like the most strongest attack out of all the chars @_@ (well i think it is)

And Yeah i wish they had put more of a storyline into Sonic...
(Sonic watchin teh news) "And now Super Mario has flown straight into the big purple ball!? Oh NO!! Who's going to SAVE him?! in other news...Mobius has been taken oover and now it's a giant purple ball :3 i hope you were looking outside" then sonic runs off XD

nah, ike's be attack charged and donkey kongs smash are the strongest

[annoyinglad]

Sounds like something Sonic Team would come up withthat what do you call his Fsmash,DSmash,Bair?

Final Smash doesn't count, I'm talking regular moves. Finishing moves are moves that have a lot of knockback, like Ike's Sides Smash or Fox's Up Smash.

[Hakudamashi]

Final Smash doesn't count, I'm talking regular moves. Finishing moves are moves that have a lot of knockback, like Ike's Sides Smash or Fox's Up Smash.

Fsmash=Forward Smash
or side smash

[RedCap-BlueSpikes]

Fsmash=Forward Smash
or side smash

Smash terms, though some, i really don't understand.
I mean, WTF is a IASA frame.

[annoyinglad]

Fsmash=Forward Smash
or side smash

Matter much?

[Hakudamashi]

Matter much?

yes

[Iwillbenapo]

Nintendo made this, SEGA and Konami helped create this.