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Title: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Gilly on September 30, 2008, 08:53:25 AM
"In the next week, a new Sonic game, called Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood will hit store shelves for the Nintendo DS. Some are anxiously waiting for the title to be released, while many don't care all that much. Why is that? Probably because Silent Hill: Homecoming will be released during the same week and, well, Sonic has lost his stride over the past decade.

Practically any poll you search for on the Web about the most popular video game characters will say that Mario is tops. In fact, a recent survey in Japan [Google translation warning] returned similar results showing Mario as the popular game character in the country, followed closely by other big names like Cloud from the Final Fantasy series and Yoshi.

Other surveys feature Sonic in the Top 10 -- usually around the middle area -- and the vast majority of people I surveyed on my Twitter page agreed with the public: Sonic isn't the best video game character of all-time, but he's certainly up there.

So what happened to Sonic? A decade ago, the blue hedgehog was at the top of his game and battling it out with Mario for the top-spot as the world's most popular video game character. Since then, even though he has been featured in a number of titles, his popularity has dropped significantly and his money-making potential has fallen with it.

All the while, stalwarts like Mario and Link have clung to the top spots with nary a drop in popularity.

During the heyday of the Sega Genesis, I can still remember the fights that would break out over whether Sonic or Mario was better. The Sega fanboys would support their mascot until the end and the Nintendo fanboys would do the same for their plumber. Little did we know that that really was the beginning of the end.

As soon as the Nintendo 64 hit store shelves and Mario become the centerpiece of the 3D platforming world, Sonic's decline started. Sega couldn't muster a real competitor and its own desire for speed trumped its necessity for fun and exciting platforming gameplay.

In the meantime, Sega itself was declining at a rapid rate and its blunders is ostracizing developers and retailers turned the company into pariah. And as Nintendo continued its charge as the de facto leader in innovative gameplay, Sega and Sonic were left out in the cold.

Finally, with the release of the Sega Dreamcast, Sega made an effort in the platforming space and released Sonic Adventure, which, to this day, is still one of my favorite games to play when I'm bored. But alas, it was too late and the once-proud Sonic was forced to endure as his creators bailed out of the hardware business in favor of software.

Sure, it wasn't long ago that Sega dropped out of the hardware business, but it really has been a long time since Sonic was on-par with Mario. In fact, I'd say that Sonic hasn't been considered an equal to Mario for at least a decade. During that time, all the kids that stayed true to Sonic have moved on, grown up, and found gaming love in titles like Halo and Gears of War. And all the younger kids who don't remember the days of Nintendo-Sega fighting only know and love one major player in the space: Mario. Sonic games are relegated to the bargain bin for these children.

And perhaps that's why few people are getting excited about the latest and greatest Sonic game. The people that once cared are too old to get excited about Sonic anymore and the younger people who should be getting excited barely care he exists. They would be much happier playing the latest Mario title or checking out any of the other major franchises in the industry.

I still look back at the old days when Sonic was at the top as some of the greatest days in gaming. It was a time when derivative gameplay was the exception, not the rule. And it was a time when gaming didn't have to be about sexy women or killing prostitutes to be fun. It was a time when gaming was real and it was unique.

And unfortunately, it's becoming clearer by the day that Sonic, a stalwart of that time, is dying of old age with each sub-par title from Sega trying to revive the old hedgehog.

Thanks for the good times, Sonic. We loved every minute of them."

Source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10054417-17.html




It made me sad realizing the truth that Sonic in the past decade really has declined so much in quality, and popularity. I think that this upcoming November will be one of the last chances some Sonic fans will give the series when Sonic Unleashed comes out. I hope the series can increase in popularity again, but the Sonic Team will REALLY have to  impress us all. Best of luck to you, Sonic.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Dracoslythe on September 30, 2008, 09:57:18 AM
Oh my GOD.  Reading this actually made me cry.
It's purely pathetic.

And the worst part about it is:
That article is one hundred percent true.

And you're right about Unleashed being one of the last chances some fans will give.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Gilly on September 30, 2008, 11:35:01 AM
Quote from: Dracoslythe on September 30, 2008, 09:57:18 AM
Oh my GOD.  Reading this actually made me cry.
It's purely pathetic.

And the worst part about it is:
That article is one hundred percent true.

And you're right about Unleashed being one of the last chances some fans will give.

Well I didn't like cry but the thing he says about thinking about myself 10 years ago when Sonic WAS so popular was sad, because they still could make good-quality Sonic games they just keep changing the series too much. If they stick to the classic Sonic style they would be a hell of a lot more successful. In most cases, change is good; however, this is one of those cases where it just isn't.... take it from the fans.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Indiman on September 30, 2008, 12:37:28 PM
Oh my!! This had made me realized even more how sonic's career has been going down. I might have to face the fact that Sonic will probably die after SU. :'( A little plumber is overcoming Sonic :( We better hope SCDB and SU will be good games. Or else it's bye bye sonic. I still have hope for them. And john you're right all this change is getting outta hand.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Gilly on October 01, 2008, 02:34:05 PM
Quote from: gfgffg on October 01, 2008, 02:33:11 PM
idk yet lol

you don't know what yet?
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on October 01, 2008, 03:02:29 PM
The irony is,Mario is older than Sonic.....that's just sad.
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1IF YOU DON'T GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASSES AND ALLOW SONIC-KUN TO DIE SO EASILY,I SWEAR ON MY LIFE IN 10 YEARS TIME I WILL GO TO YOUR COMPANY AND GO ALL GTA WITH CHEAT ON YOUR ASSES!!!!!!!1



THIS.....I...SWEAR!
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Gilly on October 01, 2008, 03:05:26 PM
Quote from: windlessusher on October 01, 2008, 03:02:29 PM
The irony is,Mario is older than Sonic.....that's just sad.
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1IF YOU DON'T GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASSES AND ALLOW SONIC-KUN TO DIE SO EASILY,I SWEAR ON MY LIFE IN 10 YEARS TIME I WILL GO TO YOUR COMPANY AND GO ALL GTA WITH CHEAT ON YOUR ASSES!!!!!!!1



THIS.....I...SWEAR!

Please stop posting with all caps, acting like you're yelling, and threatning people.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on October 01, 2008, 03:17:44 PM
Quote from: SoNICFaN23 on October 01, 2008, 03:05:26 PM
Please stop posting with all caps, acting like you're yelling, and threatning people.
sorry ^^
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Indiman on October 01, 2008, 03:39:50 PM
I just hope sonic makes it through :'(
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: sonicmaddave on October 01, 2008, 10:18:37 PM
Quote from: HyperDarkspines on October 01, 2008, 03:39:50 PM
I just hope sonic makes it through :'(

Same here, nothing wrong with mario but how the heck can an overweight plumber be so much cooler than the world's coolest hedgehog? ??? :'(
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Indiman on October 02, 2008, 11:18:49 AM
Quote from: sonicmaddave on October 01, 2008, 10:18:37 PM
Same here, nothing wrong with mario but how the heck can an overweight plumber be so much cooler than the world's coolest hedgehog? ??? :'(

Sega got Carried away that's why. Sonic is so much hated now that some people actually think Mario can beat up sonic wtf!!
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on October 02, 2008, 11:53:05 AM
Quote from: HyperDarkspines on October 02, 2008, 11:18:49 AM
Sega got Carried away that's why. Sonic is so much hated now that some people actually think Mario can beat up sonic wtf!!
speed conquers all ya bunch of Sonic haters!
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Dracoslythe on October 02, 2008, 12:04:07 PM
OMG, and ironically, we got into an argument about this on the bus yesterday...about Mario and Sonic...and sad to say...
There were two Sonic supporters (including me) against like...seven Mario supporters.

I heard someone make the comment that "He [Sonic] is just a hedgehog that runs fast?  What's so special about that?"
My answer:
"And Mario is a plumbler that jumps on turtles.  Big deal."

Mario is cool, don't get me wrong, but sheesh.

I remember, if this was back in third grade, the tables would have been turned, and Sonic would have the majority...X.x
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on October 02, 2008, 02:02:29 PM
Quote from: Dracoslythe on October 02, 2008, 12:04:07 PM
OMG, and ironically, we got into an argument about this on the bus yesterday...about Mario and Sonic...and sad to say...
There were two Sonic supporters (including me) against like...seven Mario supporters.

I heard someone make the comment that "He [Sonic] is just a hedgehog that runs fast?  What's so special about that?"
My answer:
"And Mario is a plumbler that jumps on turtles.  Big deal."

Mario is cool, don't get me wrong, but sheesh.

I remember, if this was back in third grade, the tables would have been turned, and Sonic would have the majority...X.x
Now my happy mood just died :'(
R.I.P. Windlessusher's happy mood
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Indiman on October 02, 2008, 05:27:14 PM
Quote from: Dracoslythe on October 02, 2008, 12:04:07 PM
OMG, and ironically, we got into an argument about this on the bus yesterday...about Mario and Sonic...and sad to say...
There were two Sonic supporters (including me) against like...seven Mario supporters.

I heard someone make the comment that "He [Sonic] is just a hedgehog that runs fast?  What's so special about that?"
My answer:
"And Mario is a plumbler that jumps on turtles.  Big deal."

Mario is cool, don't get me wrong, but sheesh.

I remember, if this was back in third grade, the tables would have been turned, and Sonic would have the majority...X.x
OMG EXACTLY. SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST...WTF
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: gfgffg on October 02, 2008, 05:41:08 PM
sonic never will give up and he will live infinity we love u sonic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Gilly on October 03, 2008, 02:20:13 AM
Quote from: Dracoslythe on October 02, 2008, 12:04:07 PM
OMG, and ironically, we got into an argument about this on the bus yesterday...about Mario and Sonic...and sad to say...
There were two Sonic supporters (including me) against like...seven Mario supporters.

I heard someone make the comment that "He [Sonic] is just a hedgehog that runs fast?  What's so special about that?"
My answer:
"And Mario is a plumbler that jumps on turtles.  Big deal."

Mario is cool, don't get me wrong, but sheesh.

I remember, if this was back in third grade, the tables would have been turned, and Sonic would have the majority...X.x

Well it is sad to us sonic fans but that's just more proof of what the article is saying that mario is much more popular than sonic. I miss the days when it wasn't embarrassing to say I like sonic.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Indiman on October 03, 2008, 04:44:14 PM
Quote from: SoNICFaN23 on October 03, 2008, 02:20:13 AM
Well it is sad to us sonic fans but that's just more proof of what the article is saying that mario is much more popular than sonic. I miss the days when it was embarrassing to say I like sonic.


That embarassing day is now. Or did you mean u miss the days of when ur embarrassed when u say "I hate Sonic?" Idk


by the way, IGN gave Sonic Chronicles a 6.5 :'(
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on October 03, 2008, 05:29:54 PM
Quote from: HyperDarkspines on October 03, 2008, 04:44:14 PM
That embarassing day is now. Or did you mean u miss the days of when ur embarrassed when u say "I hate Sonic?" Idk


by the way, IGN gave Sonic Chronicles a 6.5 :'(
Isn't 6.5 good?
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: CradledEggle on October 03, 2008, 05:44:27 PM
i miss sega genisi days,but sega should do this....make the old sonic games(sonic 3& knuckles fir example) into a 3d platform but that it is the same thing,just 3d and that sonic and freinds are mute so that way,anoying people don't wine about how bad griffith is a t voice acting,wich is not that bad really(dont kill me) and neither is silver 's or any other voice actor(plaese dont kill me),but sega needs to think of a way to give sonic the way he was ment to be,they can start by making the games have no voices,or going back to the origanals.*sigh*
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Indiman on October 03, 2008, 07:16:48 PM
Quote from: windlessusher on October 03, 2008, 05:29:54 PM
Isn't 6.5 good?

No it's just "Passable" :(
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Mephiles on October 03, 2008, 07:24:48 PM
Quote from: Blade the hedgehog on October 03, 2008, 05:44:27 PM
so that way,anoying people don't wine about how bad griffith is a t voice acting,wich is not that bad really(dont kill me) and neither is silver 's or any other voice actor(plaese dont kill me)
I don't really hate the voices either, but I think they can be improved. Unleashed better suprise us in a good way.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Indiman on October 03, 2008, 07:48:33 PM
I heard in the demo of Unleashed that they have the same noises from Next Gen
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Gilly on October 04, 2008, 03:41:19 AM
Quote from: HyperDarkspines on October 03, 2008, 04:44:14 PM

That embarassing day is now. Or did you mean u miss the days of when ur embarrassed when u say "I hate Sonic?" Idk


by the way, IGN gave Sonic Chronicles a 6.5 :'(

lol i forgot the " 't " at the end of that haha sorry about the typo

Quote from: HyperDarkspines on October 03, 2008, 07:48:33 PM
I heard in the demo of Unleashed that they have the same noises from Next Gen

Yeah I heard similar sounds but seriously that's not something  I care about.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: darkness shadow on October 04, 2008, 06:52:32 AM
sonic is dieing, but i'll always like sonic now sega, take my advice: get of ur lazy arses and save the legendary blue blur!!!
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on October 04, 2008, 07:37:24 AM
Quote from: ultrashadow on October 04, 2008, 06:52:32 AM
sonic is dieing, but i'll always like sonic now sega, take my advice: get of ur lazy arses and save the legendary blue blur!!!
Believe it or YOU MUST DIE!
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Indiman on October 04, 2008, 09:22:13 AM
Umm... If sonic unleashed isn't good then I think I have an idea (stupid idea though)
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: CradledEggle on October 04, 2008, 09:23:29 AM
Quote from: HyperDarkspines on October 04, 2008, 09:22:13 AM
Umm... If sonic unleashed isn't good then I think I have an idea (stupid idea though)
WHAT?!?!?(fan game or riot?)
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on October 05, 2008, 08:54:50 AM
Quote from: ultrashadow on October 05, 2008, 08:42:39 AM
who, me?
no to all who DON'T believe it,cause if they don't,THEY MUST DIE!

WAIT JUST A MINUTE!!!!How did Mario and Sonic get compared in the first place....seriously what do they have in common?
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: shanicky on October 05, 2008, 09:06:39 AM
they bought the gloves from the same shop :D
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Indiman on October 05, 2008, 10:44:45 AM
Quote from: shanicky on October 05, 2008, 09:06:39 AM
they bought the gloves from the same shop :D
hahaha lol Nice one
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on October 05, 2008, 11:22:02 AM
Quote from: HyperDarkspines on October 05, 2008, 10:44:45 AM
hahaha lol Nice one
although it was a good,I was being serious,why did they get compared and cause SEGA to try soo hard?Also,why do soo many ppl see them as enemies instead of friends?
I just hope it doesn't come down to this T_T
(http://www.justingreene.org/art/fanart/sonic/rip.jpg)
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Luma on October 05, 2008, 07:53:28 PM
rather think about what'll happen if sega doesn't get the money from sonic unleashed.. they will just stop making sonic games, who gives a shit about fanboys and fangirls and fangays and fanwhores, if sega doesnt get their money  there aint no more sonic games, no bad ones and no good ones
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: skykid10 on October 06, 2008, 09:03:46 AM
i hope sonic doesnt die :(  :'(
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Proto_Blaze on October 09, 2008, 12:42:28 AM
i have a feeling if sonic unleashed is good, his chance of survival will increase
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: asshat on October 09, 2008, 02:30:09 AM
omg your totally right!!!! =O
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: darkness shadow on October 09, 2008, 06:28:51 AM
but that chance will be killed by sonic and the black night
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Gilly on October 09, 2008, 08:01:16 AM
idk why you guys say sonic will die/be killed. im sure they'll continue to make games for years.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: darkness shadow on October 09, 2008, 08:06:14 AM
i hope they do, but u gotta amit, he's been goin downhill, fast
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Gilly on October 09, 2008, 08:07:53 AM
Quote from: ultrashadow on October 09, 2008, 08:06:14 AM
i hope they do, but u gotta amit, he's been goin downhill, fast

Not fast enough apparently since they continue to make new games.
SEGA needs to bring back the 2D sonic games more. They did something right with
Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure but they should continue to make those types.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Snooky on October 09, 2008, 08:43:05 AM
Quote from: SoNICFaN23 on October 09, 2008, 08:07:53 AM
Not fast enough apparently since they continue to make new games.
SEGA needs to bring back the 2D sonic games more. They did something right with
Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure but they should continue to make those types.


They are bringing back 2D gameplay with Sonic Unleashed.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: CradledEggle on October 09, 2008, 11:45:58 AM
Quote from: Snooky on October 09, 2008, 08:43:05 AM
They are bringing back 2D gameplay with Sonic Unleashed.
what are you talking about?!? unleashed is 3-D watch the trailer(3-D new smiley)
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Snooky on October 09, 2008, 12:36:33 PM
Quote from: Blade the hedgehog on October 09, 2008, 11:45:58 AM
what are you talking about?!? unleashed is 3-D watch the trailer(3-D new smiley)

With both 2D and 3D gameplay.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: guppy on October 15, 2008, 04:10:24 AM
Does anybody think the sonic adventure 1 and 2 for the dc was any good
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Indiman on October 16, 2008, 12:56:56 PM
Quote from: guppy on October 15, 2008, 04:10:24 AM
Does anybody think the sonic adventure 1 and 2 for the dc was any good
Ok that is really off-topic >:(
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Sariah on October 16, 2008, 02:09:12 PM
That.. just plainly pissed me off.
I remember playing the Sega Genesis when I was like.. five or six with my older brother. I still think Sonic games are great. Sonic still has lots of fans, people who dont care about him anymore are missing so much D:
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Snooky on October 17, 2008, 04:03:44 AM
Quote from: Sariah on October 16, 2008, 02:09:12 PM
That.. just plainly pissed me off.
I remember playing the Sega Genesis when I was like.. five or six with my older brother. I still think Sonic games are great. Sonic still has lots of fans, people who dont care about him anymore are missing so much D:

No they're not.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Sariah on October 17, 2008, 08:01:32 AM
Quote from: Snooky on October 17, 2008, 04:03:44 AM
No they're not.

I think they are cause Sonic makes me haapppyyyyyy.
but whatever :| i guess so then
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on October 17, 2008, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: Sariah on October 17, 2008, 08:01:32 AM
I think they are cause Sonic makes me haapppyyyyyy.
but whatever :| i guess so then
Cause remember,not everyone likes the same thing :(
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Sariah on October 17, 2008, 12:43:53 PM
Quote from: windlessusher on October 17, 2008, 11:53:31 AM
Cause remember,not everyone likes the same thing :(

yeah, i know.
but the games are fuunn~
but it sucks that hes the main character, but hes like, the most hated.
there are so many "fake" fans.. it drives me insane.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on October 17, 2008, 03:15:04 PM
Quote from: Sariah on October 17, 2008, 12:43:53 PM
yeah, i know.
but the games are fuunn~
but it sucks that hes the main character, but hes like, the most hated.
there are so many "fake" fans.. it drives me insane.
you and me both
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Indiman on October 18, 2008, 10:02:59 PM
Quote from: Sariah on October 16, 2008, 02:09:12 PM
That.. just plainly pissed me off.
I remember playing the Sega Genesis when I was like.. five or six with my older brother. I still think Sonic games are great. Sonic still has lots of fans, people who dont care about him anymore are missing so much D:
Yeah...As long as it's a sonic game I like it lol. :P
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Dracoslythe on October 19, 2008, 01:33:58 AM
The bottom line is that Sonic is still pretty epic, no matter who you are.
If you're a Sonic fan or not...
You can still find something in the franchise that you like.
Because of the entire franchise being wide-spread.  There's some of EVERYTHING.

Sonic, although many fans say he's going downhill, and they may not even be real "fans," will ALWAYS have a place in my collections.  Even if I do wander off, and kind of lose interest in it being my FAVORITE game (it's happened before, and then it suddenly was again.  XD).
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: ShadowsOfSilver on November 10, 2008, 02:33:10 PM
*sigh* IF SONIC DIES MARIO'S COMIN' WITH HIM! Yah I like mario but really Draco's right.
Quote"And Mario's just a plumber who jumps on turtles. Big deal."

I have ideas for SEGA.

THEY HAVE TO MAKE AWESOME GAMES. Though. The people who used to like Sonic are replacing him with Mario and giving bad comments on the games before they play them.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on November 10, 2008, 02:59:09 PM
Quote from: ShadowsOfSilver on November 10, 2008, 02:33:10 PM
The people who used to like Sonic are replacing him with Mario and giving bad comments on the games before they play them.
And it annoys me soo effin much DX
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: ShadowsOfSilver on November 11, 2008, 06:05:36 AM
Me too... AND I MEAN IT! IF SONIC DIES MARIO'S COMING WITH HIM!
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Snooky on November 11, 2008, 02:21:09 PM
Quote from: HyperDarkspines on October 18, 2008, 10:02:59 PM
Yeah...As long as it's a sonic game I like it lol. :P

As long as it's a GOOD Sonic game I like it... I HATE Sonic 360...
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Reaver77 on November 11, 2008, 02:22:07 PM
Quote from: Snooky on November 11, 2008, 02:21:09 PM
As long as it's a GOOD Sonic game I like it... I HATE Sonic 360...

Hey that game was really hardcore, it just had a lot of problems... :\
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Snooky on November 11, 2008, 02:30:34 PM
Quote from: Reaver77 on November 11, 2008, 02:22:07 PM
Hey that game was really hardcore, it just had a lot of problems... :\

Exactly, like the problem where it ruined Sonic with millions of glitches, a god awful story, worse voice acting, broken controls and all-around bad gameplay.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Reaver77 on November 11, 2008, 02:33:04 PM
Quote from: Snooky on November 11, 2008, 02:30:34 PM
Exactly, like the problem where it ruined Sonic with millions of glitches, a god awful story, worse voice acting, broken controls and all-around bad gameplay.

Glitches yes.
Godawful story...I didn't think so... :(
Voice acting wasn't that bad...
I thought it had good controls, they were just a bit too touchy in game
Gameplay was fun, minus a few annoying glitches (such as not being able to move in air when jumping while on a snowboard thing)
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: loopdeer on January 01, 2009, 07:01:28 AM
Sega should go a bit back in time and make newer levels for the original games that were in 2d or make a game like sonic adventure 1-2
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: chet on January 06, 2009, 02:19:38 PM
Quote from: NiGHTMaRE on October 03, 2008, 02:20:13 AM
Well it is sad to us sonic fans but that's just more proof of what the article is saying that mario is much more popular than sonic. I miss the days when it wasn't embarrassing to say I like sonic.
i agree!! now i earned an embarassing reputation at my school for liking sonic!!

i like blue... and mario is red!!! red is the complete opposite of blue!!!!!!
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: sonicmaddave on January 06, 2009, 02:26:23 PM
I feel quite embarrassed to tell some of my relations I like Sonic because they think it's a kids thing and that I should grow out of it. :(
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on January 10, 2009, 08:08:41 AM
Quote from: sonicmaddave on January 06, 2009, 02:26:23 PM
I feel quite embarrassed to tell some of my relations I like Sonic because they think it's a kids thing and that I should grow out of it. :(
Isn't Mario more kiddy than Sonic?
Quote from: loopdeer on January 01, 2009, 07:01:28 AM
Sega should go a bit back in time and make newer levels for the original games that were in 2d or make a game like sonic adventure 1-2
Its thinking like that thats making Sonic so downgraded
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: finaly on January 20, 2009, 08:11:42 AM
:(
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Super Empra on January 20, 2009, 09:48:51 AM
Quote from: windlessusher on January 10, 2009, 08:08:41 AM
Its thinking like that thats making Sonic so downgraded
It thinking like that thats saving sonic. Nobody wants to play a slow sonic game, they are meant to be fast. Everytime times SEGA has tries something new it is always disliked.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: finaly on January 20, 2009, 10:08:05 AM
sonic is the best !!
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on January 20, 2009, 10:43:54 AM
Quote from: Super Empra on January 20, 2009, 09:48:51 AM
It thinking like that thats saving sonic. Nobody wants to play a slow sonic game, they are meant to be fast. Everytime times SEGA has tries something new it is always disliked.
don't stereo type me with those other picky ppl

Just think about it,what if the sonic games...weren't sonic games?What if it was a different sprite?
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: NeoMetalSonic on January 29, 2009, 03:10:54 PM
I will NEVER give up on Sonic. No matter what other people say. I will stay true to him. If Sega stays true to us, PLEASE Sega if you read these Replies and Topics. Know that we want the Blue Blur back on top. Just, don't rush the games. But, Good Luck Sonic.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: skyrus5150 on February 11, 2009, 12:34:42 AM
i hope they make a wicked game like SA2 soon to revive sonic
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: KnuXXX on February 11, 2009, 12:40:49 AM
Quote from: windlessusher on January 20, 2009, 10:43:54 AM
don't stereo type me with those other picky ppl

Just think about it,what if the sonic games...weren't sonic games?What if it was a different sprite?
on that note, I just have to say (it's probably written all over the forum. but some still don't know) that Sonic wasn't supposed to be a hedgehog. He was supposed to be a rabbit  =p Now, to my question..

Would Sonic games be the same if he was a rabbit?
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Super Empra on February 11, 2009, 05:17:21 AM
Quote from: Knux on February 11, 2009, 12:40:49 AM
on that note, I just have to say (it's probably written all over the forum. but some still don't know) that Sonic wasn't supposed to be a hedgehog. He was supposed to be a rabbit  =p Now, to my question..

Would Sonic games be the same if he was a rabbit?

Yes. He would still be the same and have the same personality.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: KnuXXX on February 11, 2009, 10:19:48 AM
Quote from: Super Empra on February 11, 2009, 05:17:21 AM
Yes. He would still be the same and have the same personality.
How can u be so sure? I mean, if he was a rabbit, Sega wouldn't think "rabbits deserve a cool personality." cause they're more cute than cool..
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: SonicFan47 on February 11, 2009, 11:03:27 AM
Quote from: Knux on February 11, 2009, 10:19:48 AM
How can u be so sure? I mean, if he was a rabbit, Sega wouldn't think "rabbits deserve a cool personality." cause they're more cute than cool..
That's a good point...I don't know.
He might have had the same personality; He might not have.

I guess we'll never know.

On that note, wasn't Eggman originally supposed to be the good guy?
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: KnuXXX on February 11, 2009, 11:10:35 AM
Quote from: SonicFan47 on February 11, 2009, 11:03:27 AM
That's a good point...I don't know.
He might have had the same personality; He might not have.

I guess we'll never know.

On that note, wasn't Eggman originally supposed to be the good guy?

Haven't heard anything about that. Might be.

Sometimes I wish eggman wasn't a human. Would make alot more sense. Why is he the only human on Mobius?

He could've been Coconuts instead. rofl
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 11, 2009, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: Knux on February 11, 2009, 10:19:48 AM
How can u be so sure? I mean, if he was a rabbit, Sega wouldn't think "rabbits deserve a cool personality." cause they're more cute than cool..
cought,bugs,buster,babs&lolabunnycough >.> <.<
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: chet on February 14, 2009, 11:04:45 AM
i can imagine my great great great nephew playing sonic adventure 12.  :)
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: KnuXXX on February 14, 2009, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: chet on February 14, 2009, 11:04:45 AM
i can imagine my great great great nephew playing sonic adventure 12.  :)
Rofl, 12.. That'd be too good for the consoles even in year 3000
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Elija2 on February 14, 2009, 04:22:07 PM
Quote from: Knux on February 14, 2009, 03:41:46 PM
Rofl, 12.. That'd be too good for the consoles even in year 3000

That's why it would be on a Dreamcast 5! :P
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: KnuXXX on February 14, 2009, 04:53:34 PM
Quote from: Elija2 on February 14, 2009, 04:22:07 PM
That's why it would be on a Dreamcast 5! :P
Meh, well.. Sega kinda fails when it comes to consoles.. it's sad, I know. But it's true.. That's why I keep hoping that they'll work even more together with Nintendo.. that'd be awesome..

Segando FTW!
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: SonicFan47 on February 18, 2009, 01:11:10 PM
Quote from: Knux on February 14, 2009, 04:53:34 PM
Meh, well.. Sega kinda fails when it comes to consoles.. it's sad, I know. But it's true.. That's why I keep hoping that they'll work even more together with Nintendo.. that'd be awesome..

Segando FTW!
Nah, It'd be more like Nintega.

Quote from: windlessusher on February 11, 2009, 03:27:22 PM
cought,bugs,buster,babs&lolabunnycough >.> <.<
Buster?
As in Buster Baxter from the Arthur show?
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 18, 2009, 03:58:43 PM
Quote from: SonicFan47 on February 18, 2009, 01:11:10 PM
Buster?
As in Buster Baxter from the Arthur show?
Buster Rabbit from Tiny Toon Adventures  :P
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: SonicFan47 on February 19, 2009, 06:36:45 PM
Quote from: windlessusher on February 18, 2009, 03:58:43 PM
Buster Rabbit from Tiny Toon Adventures  :P
Oh, okay...
Never heard of him :P
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 19, 2009, 07:26:14 PM
Quote from: SonicFan47 on February 19, 2009, 06:36:45 PM
Oh, okay...
Never heard of him :P
D: UR KIDDING O_o

The Blue Rabbit thats always beside Babs
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: KnuXXX on February 19, 2009, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: windlessusher on February 19, 2009, 07:26:14 PM
D: UR KIDDING O_o

The Blue Rabbit thats always beside Babs

Or the Rabbit in YouTube Poop.


Right?
Isn't he the same that's on the.. V6 chewing gum? (if it's a worldwide brand, lol)
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 20, 2009, 11:33:35 AM
This goddamn bunny right here >_>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW5wdFpSyho (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW5wdFpSyho)
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: SonicFan47 on February 20, 2009, 11:48:52 AM
Quote from: windlessusher on February 20, 2009, 11:33:35 AM
This goddamn bunny right here >_>
<quoted video removed>
Oh, okay...
Yeah, I've seen him before. I just forgot his name. Thanks.

aaaaaaaaaand...
Quote from: Knux on February 19, 2009, 08:23:44 PM
Or the Rabbit in YouTube Poop.


Right?
Isn't he the same that's on the.. V6 chewing gum? (if it's a worldwide brand, lol)
I believe that the YTPoop one is Doctor Rabbit, and I think that he was used to advertise toothpaste.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: KnuXXX on February 21, 2009, 03:58:26 AM
Quote from: SonicFan47 on February 20, 2009, 11:48:52 AM
Oh, okay...
Yeah, I've seen him before. I just forgot his name. Thanks.

aaaaaaaaaand...I believe that the YTPoop one is Doctor Rabbit, and I think that he was used to advertise toothpaste.

That's the one!
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: ShadowsOfSilver on February 21, 2009, 12:55:34 PM
xP This is getting REALLY off-topic. xP
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on March 29, 2009, 03:40:00 AM
Quote from: Kristomaster on March 28, 2009, 09:08:08 PM
I mean that Sonic still gives us good times in the newest games, I just don't understand what the Critics are sobbing for and DOWNRATING the Sonic games. Seriously, why did they complain about the Werehog in Sonic Unleashed?
Because its not like the Genesis Sonic
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: ultimate life form on April 24, 2009, 04:53:34 AM
Quote from: KnuXXX on February 14, 2009, 04:53:34 PM
Meh, well.. Sega kinda fails when it comes to consoles.. it's sad, I know. But it's true.. That's why I keep hoping that they'll work even more together with Nintendo.. that'd be awesome..

Segando FTW!

wait i think yor forgeting something. the grand father of the xbox360, dream cast. first to have some sort of online gameplay and the genesis was better at the time of snes and genesis

Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on April 24, 2009, 12:47:56 PM
Quote from: ultimate life form on April 24, 2009, 04:53:34 AM
wait i think yor forgeting something. the grand father of the xbox360, dream cast. first to have some sort of online gameplay and the genesis was better at the time of snes and genesis


I believe the Dreamcast lost to the PS2 cause it couldn't play DVDs
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Super Empra on April 24, 2009, 10:18:06 PM
Quote from: windlessusher on April 24, 2009, 12:47:56 PM
I believe the Dreamcast lost to the PS2 cause it couldn't play DVDs

It also lost because of PS1. The PS1 was very popular. When ppl heard that there was gonna be a second one. ppl forgot about the dreamcast. PS2 had really hyped up graphics. If PS1 didn't exist then maybe SEGA would still be making consoles today...
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on April 25, 2009, 08:58:05 AM
Quote from: Super Empra on April 24, 2009, 10:18:06 PM
It also lost because of PS1. The PS1 was very popular. When ppl heard that there was gonna be a second one. ppl forgot about the dreamcast. PS2 had really hyped up graphics. If PS1 didn't exist then maybe SEGA would still be making consoles today...
Sooooooo the PS2 would be the PS1?
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Super Empra on April 25, 2009, 10:18:39 PM
Quote from: windlessusher on April 25, 2009, 08:58:05 AM
Sooooooo the PS2 would be the PS1?

If PS1 wasn't popular then PS2 never would have beaten the dreamcast.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Hakudamashi on April 26, 2009, 07:39:14 AM
Quote from: Super Empra on April 25, 2009, 10:18:39 PM
If PS1 wasn't popular then PS2 never would have beaten the dreamcast.
So your saying if the PS2 was the PS1
The Dreamcast might still be here?
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: Super Empra on April 26, 2009, 07:53:08 AM
yes something like that.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: SonicFan47 on April 29, 2009, 06:27:25 PM
Methinks that I've already posted one of these in this topic, but I'm gonna post 'em again (and then post them in the video section later, just to spread it around).

Behold! The History of the Dreamcast! From idea to outmode.

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk0b0kaevs0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk0b0kaevs0)

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hLeARal_Pw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hLeARal_Pw)

And, in case you wonder about the authenticity of these vids, this guy teaches Middle School History.
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: superhedgehog4 on May 24, 2009, 05:24:38 PM
i believe he can make
Title: Re: Article: "Is Sonic the Hedgehog still relevant?"
Post by: SonicLover25 on May 29, 2009, 12:20:13 PM
 >:( IF SONIC GOES,I'M DRAGGING MARIO WITH HIM! >:(