This started from an argument I had with my grandma. She CLAIMS that Casting Crowns isn't "real" Christian Music, because they have a rock-like sound to their music. These were her exact words;;
"They're only trying to please the world. That's not Christian music, that's a bunch of hypocrites singing Christian lyrics to worldly music." I laughed. HARD. Like seriously, to me, Christian music is defined by the LYRICS, not the STYLE OF MUSIC.
She thinks that ALL Christian music should be like Amazing Grace or other older-styled music. Like seriously, what's the difference if I wanted to listen to this;;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0a_Mz8oTDw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0a_Mz8oTDw)
Lyrics;
Take one last breath; your about to jump to your death
Sail Away from the shoreline, Sail away from the shore, Im infront of Heavens door.
Captain Captain, before the sail rips (x3)
Gasp for air... ABANDON ALL SHIPS!!!
The currents strong, the waves will rise, the binding chains made me realise ; Sin is the anchor, holding me down.
Im on a cruise to Paradise, im done with sin ive paid my price
God is our captain, Change your direction
Look what we've built, walking the plank of guilt. (x2)
Look what we've built, walking Blindfolded.
Or this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iExYwELrM5U&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iExYwELrM5U&feature=related)
Music styles are SO much different.
But the lyrics aren't...sorta.
They're both talking about how God is the one that can save you, blah blah (I could care less, sorry lol)
One's just more modernized, and one is...old. lol
Personally, the broader scope of music there is, the broader the audience you can reach,
bleh.
Your thoughts, SZ?
I believe that as long as the lyrics are praising God, than that music is indeed Christian music. The style how its played doesn't matter.
Yes Casting Crowns plays it in a way the world will like more, but its to ATTRACT the attention of non-believers and bring them to Christ. ;)
Quote from: Gleech on December 20, 2009, 06:26:41 PM
I believe that as long as the lyrics are praising God, than that music is indeed Christian music. The style how its played doesn't matter.
Yes Casting Crowns plays it in a way the world will like more, but its to ATTRACT the attention of non-believers and bring them to Christ. ;)
That's EXACTLY what I tried to explain to her.
I was like "yes, but not all people listen to church choir music, or at least, not all people like it. If there's a song that has the same message, but in a rock or even a screamo style, more people are apt to listen to it."
Christian Music to me usually means praising God's and or Jesus' works in one way or another.
I also think it could mean music that can obviously be played in a Christian Church during a mass or so.
elder people are arrogant dicks to the EXTREME, please look out Draco
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Holy shit, I just counted how many times I used 'like seriously' and then I proceeded to shit bricks. ;~;
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haha, yes I know. Well, not all old people, but my grandma takes it a bit to the extreme. I swear our church(as in I'm forced to go to this one, but I try to get out of it, one cause I'm not even Christian, and two, because I hate my church. ;~;) is more like a ...idk, really, cult? than a church, even trying to control what we wear. Hell, the women aren't even allowed to wear slacks or nice looking pants, and the men HAVE to wear ties and cannot wear jeans.
But my other grandma's amazing. xD
I'd rather go to mass with her anyday (although she doesn't go alot...she's not a real churchgoer but she is Catholic in religion) than to that crazy-ass independent southern baptist conservative hell-hole that I have to go to.
My favorite Christian singers are:
Mark Lowry
The Gaither Vocal Band
Carmen
Carmen does a rock style singing too. Like so:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obHA_FXP-D4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obHA_FXP-D4)
Th pics are interesting, but it's all I could find on short notice.
Here's one for Mark Lowry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OghQSzMydXI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OghQSzMydXI&feature=related)
Little slower, but still nice.
And finally, The Gaither Vocal Band together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9tB4_iJ9ak (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9tB4_iJ9ak)
Christian music doesn't have to be boring! It can be really enjoyable!
Christian music is music done by christians
is what I say...
I like this Christian rock band, Pillar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPlRDz7-eSo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPlRDz7-eSo)
Watch closely in the video and you'll notice they don't use the "devil horns"
Quote from: Windlessusher on December 21, 2009, 03:47:47 AM
Christian music is music done by christians
is what I say...
*Bump*
Tell that to Miley Cyrus, or the Jonas Brothers. They're Christians, but you never hear them praising God.
Quote from: Dracoslythe on December 21, 2009, 01:48:27 AM
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Holy shit, I just counted how many times I used 'like seriously' and then I proceeded to shit bricks. ;~;
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haha, yes I know. Well, not all old people, but my grandma takes it a bit to the extreme. I swear our church(as in I'm forced to go to this one, but I try to get out of it, one cause I'm not even Christian, and two, because I hate my church. ;~;) is more like a ...idk, really, cult? than a church, even trying to control what we wear. Hell, the women aren't even allowed to wear slacks or nice looking pants, and the men HAVE to wear ties and cannot wear jeans.
But my other grandma's amazing. xD
I'd rather go to mass with her anyday (although she doesn't go alot...she's not a real churchgoer but she is Catholic in religion) than to that crazy-ass independent southern baptist conservative hell-hole that I have to go to.
You should visit my church, we're WAY less strict.
You should visit me church.
We would wreck havoc *shot*
In my opinion, It's music based around Christianity.
Quote from: Dracoslythe on December 20, 2009, 06:21:44 PM
This started from an argument I had with my grandma. She CLAIMS that Casting Crowns isn't "real" Christian Music, because they have a rock-like sound to their music. These were her exact words;;
"They're only trying to please the world. That's not Christian music, that's a bunch of hypocrites singing Christian lyrics to worldly music." I laughed. HARD. Like seriously, to me, Christian music is defined by the LYRICS, not the STYLE OF MUSIC.
She thinks that ALL Christian music should be like Amazing Grace or other older-styled music. Like seriously, what's the difference if I wanted to listen to this;;
well you need to spank your granny till her but glows red lyk an apple
christian music is what you make it, if the words are worshiping God, AND you are worshiping God with your heart as you are singing, then you better damn well believe it's christian
and your granny can take THAT to the bank
Theres actually a Christian Death Metal band called Impending Doom. xDDD
But seriously, Christian Music can be a wide variety of things.
IMO: This is the best song ever,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRUJrjUGGfg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRUJrjUGGfg)
I guess it all just depends on how you worship/praise God.
Doesn't matter if its Death Metal or whine Jonas Brothers crap. (;-;)
Quote from: Gleech on December 20, 2009, 06:26:41 PM
I believe that as long as the lyrics are praising God, than that music is indeed Christian music. The style how its played doesn't matter.
Skillet is cosidered a Christian band but i've never heard them talk about "God" in thier lyrics. I think as long as they don't swear they're considered Christian.
well I'm not really sure, the music that is singed in churches or other music that prays to God
WHAT THE FU-*EXPLODES*
...................
no that is my real reaction to it.
Quote from: jkid101094 on January 21, 2010, 06:39:06 PM
Skillet is cosidered a Christian band but i've never heard them talk about "God" in thier lyrics. I think as long as they don't swear they're considered Christian.
But a song could not swear and talk about doing bad things or praising the devil.
Quote from: Gleech on January 22, 2010, 10:46:04 AM
But a song could not swear and talk about doing bad things or praising the devil.
Songs can do that. Just not "Christian" songs...
Quote from: jkid101094 on January 22, 2010, 11:37:03 AM
Songs can do that. Just not "Christian" songs...
Yeah but you stated that every song that doesnt swear in your opinion is a christian song.
What if its praising the devil of promoting bad things and it doesn't swear.
Quote from: Gleech on January 22, 2010, 12:10:38 PM
Yeah but you stated that every song that doesnt swear in your opinion is a christian song.
What if its praising the devil of promoting bad things and it doesn't swear.
Oh, I get what you're saying now. ;)
Well then I guess I was wrong. :D
Quote from: jkid101094 on January 21, 2010, 06:39:06 PM
Skillet is cosidered a Christian band but i've never heard them talk about "God" in thier lyrics. I think as long as they don't swear they're considered Christian.
no, they don't say "God" or "Jesus" but the message is implied.
you can tell by reading the lyrics, what there talking about
Quote from: Dracoslythe on December 20, 2009, 06:21:44 PM
This started from an argument I had with my grandma. She CLAIMS that Casting Crowns isn't "real" Christian Music, because they have a rock-like sound to their music. These were her exact words;;
"They're only trying to please the world. That's not Christian music, that's a bunch of hypocrites singing Christian lyrics to worldly music." I laughed. HARD. Like seriously, to me, Christian music is defined by the LYRICS, not the STYLE OF MUSIC.
She thinks that ALL Christian music should be like Amazing Grace or other older-styled music.
Can't Blame your grandmother though...
She can only experience life through her eyes
Which she has and can't understand the today b/c she doesn't life today but in the past, which most people do in general b/c of past trauma. Or they are just stubborn people....
Some old people give themselves sovereignty over the young b/c they have lived a long time.
Time means nothing, old people need to realize that time only means something if you have gained true wisdom from it.
Anyway, you're right.
Christian music is based on lyrics, not the genre.
Jesus would accept all praise if it is genuine and from the heart and soul of the person
Your Grandmother can't tell if people are genuine or not
I don't think she is God >:(
Don't judge a book by its cover. :)
Quote from: LunarShadow on January 24, 2010, 06:38:52 PMChristian music is based on lyrics, not the genre.
Jesus would accept all praise if it is genuine and from the heart and soul of the person
Hey, +1 big guy. ;)
Quote from: Gleech on December 20, 2009, 06:26:41 PM
I believe that as long as the lyrics are praising God, than that music is indeed Christian music. The style how its played doesn't matter.
Yes Casting Crowns plays it in a way the world will like more, but its to ATTRACT the attention of non-believers and bring them to Christ. ;)
I agree with Gleech. If the lyrics are about worshiping God, it's Christian music. So many people think the only way music is Christian music is if it's boring hymns like you'd hear in church or Gospel.
There's a lot of upbeat Christian music. Just to name a few, there's Pillar, TobyMac, Skillet, P.O.D. and many more.
pfft, old people, will they never accept are cool christian music, or will they always insist on there old boring lame music
when I'm old I will NOT be lyk that ;)
to me christian music is music that shows the views of christians.even though i am a christian i have no idea what real christian music is though.