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GENERAL => Spam => Topic started by: EchidnaPower on Dec 3, 2010 01:32 AM

Title: Little Rant >:U
Post by: EchidnaPower on Dec 3, 2010 01:32 AM
So I join this spriter forum I found in hopes of getting someone to help me, so I ask for the help, and they want to see what it is I need done and what I've done for the project so far. So I show them a sprite sheet of Dash, Crash, some custom Sonamy stuff. I also show them art of Quicksilver, Ashley, and the comedy relief char Daze, and then finally a link to the story itself. So I thought to myself, "That oughta be enough."

Ohhh...it was enough alright. They gave me a hard time about how the characters weren't all that original and I needed permission from the owners, so I told them my position of co-captain and that I could do with the chars as I pleased.

Then they come out and tell me that having copyright on characters as bad recolors as they are would be pointless, and to quote a phrase by one Turbo Thunderbolt: "Sorry but no I'm not touching any of those with a ten foot stick."

So THEN I ask them where could I go to get my request done? And instead of site suggestions, I'm told that people will refuse to do it because they're FCs. And now I'm probably on that forum's hit list to top it all off. Now keep in mind that this is a forum made for spriters, so if a spriter's site won't take requests, then (forgive my profanity, and I don't wanna hear any comments about it, I will edit them) WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY THERE FOR?!  >:(

Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: jkid101094 on Dec 3, 2010 05:44 PM
Wow, that's kinda crappy. O.o I mean, I don't like FCs either but that's a bit harsh. But, you gotta admit, it's pretty hard to make an FC that fits "originality standards" today. You'll find help, I know it. But you have to look at things from their point of view, even if they were complete dicks. I wouldn't work on the Dash Adventure simply because I'm not super interested in fan-games anymore. Especially since it's really big. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's impossible to have copyrights over an edit if the original character can still be seen in the design.
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: EchidnaPower on Dec 3, 2010 06:05 PM
Well you nailed it yourself. With every "original" character that comes out, it gets harder and harder to make one. I mean seriously, what do they want huh? And Blade was the only help I had, and his comp's out for repairs. I honestly have NO spriters anymore.
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: jkid101094 on Dec 3, 2010 06:19 PM
I just don't see the appeal of fanfiction anymore.  That's why all my ideas emerge from the dust. But I do kinda owe Seth to fanfiction and we both know where he is on the HC ladder these days. xD

And you just got to keep looking. I did. And now my staff are also my most die hard fans. :P
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: Ioshyriku on Dec 3, 2010 11:44 PM
well that was very rude of them, but I kinda think fan-chars are kinda boring ideas why not make something that has an original design, I don't want to insult you or your characters but an original character design is better than something made after other characters
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: Fiamonder on Dec 4, 2010 02:06 AM
...you're still working on Dash Adventures?
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: EchidnaPower on Dec 4, 2010 02:22 AM
Quote from: jkid101094 on Dec  3, 2010 06:19 PM
I just don't see the appeal of fanfiction anymore.  That's why all my ideas emerge from the dust. But I do kinda owe Seth to fanfiction and we both know where he is on the HC ladder these days. xD

And you just got to keep looking. I did. And now my staff are also my most die hard fans. :P

Orly? I don't suppose your fans would help me if you told them to? *shot*


Quote from: Ioshyriku on Dec  3, 2010 11:44 PM
well that was very rude of them, but I kinda think fan-chars are kinda boring ideas why not make something that has an original design, I don't want to insult you or your characters but an original character design is better than something made after other characters

They're not my characters, I'm just trying to find someone to sprite them since the character owners don't know how to sprite the way we need them to.

Quote from: Fiamonder on Dec  4, 2010 02:06 AM
...you're still working on Dash Adventures?

Yes. =P
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: Afro7hundr on Dec 4, 2010 03:29 AM
Unleash the wrath of Heaven upon their impious heads.
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: jkid101094 on Dec 4, 2010 10:48 AM
Quote from: EchidnaPower on Dec  4, 2010 02:22 AM
Orly? I don't suppose your fans would help me if you told them to? *shot*
When we're working on our own game? Not a chance. :P
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: Ioshyriku on Dec 5, 2010 12:22 AM
I remember we had some good spriters here on SonicZoneForum, I don't know if their still here thou
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: EchidnaPower on Dec 5, 2010 11:21 AM
This was actually the first place I looked. I stole Blade for a while lol.
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: ~Bubblicious~ on Dec 5, 2010 12:28 PM
That's just realy messed up. What's the point in even having such a community if you aren't going to help anyways? If I had any skills or talents with spriting I'd certainly offer my own help, even if it was for a really crappy FC. Sure, something being original is important, but that's not the point. The point is creation and effort. Obviously those people are a lot of simple-minded fools. If you want I'd happily do some fan-art for you whenever I had the time, while it may not be sprites at least it's something I guess ^_^
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: EchidnaPower on Dec 6, 2010 04:06 AM
I appreciate it Tobi, thanks. But right now all I need is someone to sprite for me. Honestly, even an amateur could do what I want. Unfortunately I myself don't even rank that high. -_-
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: Sonic360 on Dec 9, 2010 05:49 PM
Quote from: Ioshyriku on Dec  5, 2010 12:22 AM
I remember we had some good spriters here on SonicZoneForum, I don't know if their still here thou
Yeah...well at least I still am, Blade has left the site.

Quote from: EchidnaPower on Dec  3, 2010 06:05 PMBlade was the only help I had, and his comp's out for repairs. I honestly have NO spriters anymore.
Blade got his computer back about a week ago.
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: Skyle369 on Dec 10, 2010 01:27 AM
LOL, that's kinda like in smackjeeves except it's comics.
Erm... mind if I see the sprites of Dash and Crash?
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: EchidnaPower on Dec 10, 2010 04:13 AM
(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/14/28/63/54/dashsp11.jpg)

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/14/28/63/54/s6nbzd10.png)

Yeah yeah, they're recolors. It's what I have to work with here people. <_<
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: jkid101094 on Dec 10, 2010 11:09 AM
I always thought Dash was yours? O.o
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: Hakudamashi on Dec 11, 2010 10:39 AM
Quote from: EchidnaPower on Dec 10, 2010 04:13 AM
(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/14/28/63/54/dashsp11.jpg)

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/14/28/63/54/s6nbzd10.png)

Yeah yeah, they're recolors. It's what I have to work with here people. <_<
They're still not nice >=U
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: EchidnaPower on Dec 11, 2010 06:56 PM
Quote from: jkid101094 on Dec 10, 2010 11:09 AM
I always thought Dash was yours? O.o

If you'd join the Dash Forum, you'd know that Dash belongs to xstealthkingx, my boss you could say.
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: xaio on Dec 17, 2010 04:57 AM
Quote from: EchidnaPower on Dec  3, 2010 01:32 AM
So I join this spriter forum I found in hopes of getting someone to help me, so I ask for the help, and they want to see what it is I need done and what I've done for the project so far. So I show them a sprite sheet of Dash, Crash, some custom Sonamy stuff. I also show them art of Quicksilver, Ashley, and the comedy relief char Daze, and then finally a link to the story itself. So I thought to myself, "That oughta be enough."

Ohhh...it was enough alright. They gave me a hard time about how the characters weren't all that original and I needed permission from the owners, so I told them my position of co-captain and that I could do with the chars as I pleased.

Then they come out and tell me that having copyright on characters as bad recolors as they are would be pointless, and to quote a phrase by one Turbo Thunderbolt: "Sorry but no I'm not touching any of those with a ten foot stick."

So THEN I ask them where could I go to get my request done? And instead of site suggestions, I'm told that people will refuse to do it because they're FCs. And now I'm probably on that forum's hit list to top it all off. Now keep in mind that this is a forum made for spriters, so if a spriter's site won't take requests, then (forgive my profanity, and I don't wanna hear any comments about it, I will edit them) WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY THERE FOR?!  >:(


hey, could you give me a link to this place? i wanna fight them over my characters too.
let's see them get away with that. and i have your back the whole thing.
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: Nightshade the hedgehog on Dec 17, 2010 05:46 AM
Quote from: xaio on Dec 17, 2010 04:57 AM
hey, could you give me a link to this place? i wanna fight them over my characters too.
let's see them get away with that. and i have your back the whole thing.
same here bro
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: EchidnaPower on Dec 17, 2010 08:08 AM
Unfortunately I lost the link to the site after they turned me down. All I remember was that it was related to the Mystical Forest Zone.
Title: Re: Little Rant >:U
Post by: Nightshade the hedgehog on Dec 17, 2010 09:12 AM
Quote from: EchidnaPower on Dec 17, 2010 08:08 AM
Unfortunately I lost the link to the site after they turned me down. All I remember was that it was related to the Mystical Forest Zone.
spriters resource maybe