Sonic Zone

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The other day I finished playing the sequel to 999, one of my favourite games ever. Yeah, turns out 999 is now the first part of a trilogy of games called the "Zero Escape" series. Virtue's Last Reward is the second game. It's a really good game and improves on many problems that people had with the first. For example:

• In VLR you can skip to any point that you were at. Like 999 this game is all about the multiple endings, but unlike 999 you don't have to go through the same parts of the game over and over again on your way to getting all the endings. That means you never have to repeat any puzzle rooms or dialogue.
• The game has an Easy mode for the puzzles so babies like Wind who have trouble with them can have the game hold their hand through them all.
• The game is on both the 3DS and Vita. Both games are essentially the same except for the Vita having better graphics and more save files. The 3DS version also has a horrible glitch that can cause your save to get corrupted, forcing you to restart everything. To prevent this glitch from happening, never save in any of the puzzle rooms. I followed those instructions and my save was never corrupted.

This game also has you competing in the Nonary game, although this time it's very different. Everyone starts with the number "3" on their watch, but some people are paired up while others are solo. Everyone also has a different colour for their watch, with pairs having the same colour on their watch. Instead of having the digital root of a group's numbers add to 9 to get through the doors, the colours of a group's watches must combine to create the colour of the door they are to go through. This means that a pair (consisting of 2 people) and a solo (which is just 1 person) must group up to get through a door. After a group escapes a puzzle room, they must participate in the "AB Game". The pair and solos that teamed up must now play against (or with) each other. Simply put, the 2 people in the pair are put in one room while the solo is put in the other. Each must vote one of two options, "Ally" or "Betray", with the pair sharing their one vote. If both groups ally, they each get 2 points added to their watch number. If one allys and the other betrays, the betrayer gets +3 points while the ally gets -2 points. If both groups betray, neither of them gets any points. After everyone has voted, the results are shown and the next round starts. The pairs/solos and colours are shuffled at the beginning of each round. To escape and win the Nonary game, a person (or multiple people) must have 9 points which will allow them to open the number 9 door. The door only opens once, and everyone that doesn't make it will be trapped there forever. I know it sounds confusing, but the game explains it much better than I.

This game is infact a direct sequel to 999, and characters and plotpoints from that game show up in this one. I highly recommend you play 999 before this game because it makes the story that much better. You certainly can't play through VLR and then go back to 999 because VLR straight up spoils everything in that game. The story for this game is of course really good, although it's a lot more confusing than the first game. While 999 was it's own little story, VLR sets up for the third and final game in the series. Because of this the ending is not as satisfying as 999's, but the story is still filled with crazy twists and turns. I recommend anyone that played and enjoyed 999 to pick this game up. It was recently put up on the 3DS eShop with a sale price of $25 which is how I bought it. The sale has since ended, but it's still worth full price for either 3DS or Vita. The game took me over 30 hours to get all the endings (including the secret ending...) While I like 999 more, this game is still very much worth playing. So play it!

I got this game for the Vita free some time ago, but never got around to playing it...

i just noticed that my topic and Proto's topic on this game is gone.

Quote from: Hakudamashi on September 16, 2013, 11:10:58 AM
I got this game for the Vita free some time ago, but never got around to playing it...

Wow, what the hell is wrong with you?

Quote from: Elija2 on September 16, 2013, 05:35:49 PM
Wow, what the hell is wrong with you?

Metroid Prime Trilogy.

Quote from: Hakudamashi on September 17, 2013, 10:02:31 AM
Metroid Prime Trilogy.

VLR can be beaten in less time than Metroid Prime Trilogy, you should have started it first.

Either way, now you have to play it.

Can I at least beat Metroid Prime first?

Quote from: Hakudamashi on September 17, 2013, 10:29:03 AM
Can I at least beat Metroid Prime first?

I guess, since it's apparently impossible to play through two games at the same time. But when you do get around to playing VLR, I demand that you post a journal entry with your thoughts and reactions for each ending that you get.

It's not that I can't play them both, it's that I prefer to give full attention to a single game at a time, especially story driven ones.

The game is still showing up as $24.99 on the 3DS eShop even though the sale should have ended a while ago. I don't know if that's the permanent price now or if it's a mistake but everyone should snatch it at that price while they still can. I saw the physical version of the game on sale for $35+ before so getting it on the eShop is your best bet for saving money.

Um, Eli?
Makoto Nanaya turned into a rabbit and locked me in an elevator... wtf?

Quote from: Hakudamashi on October 07, 2013, 08:25:53 AM
Um, Eli?
Makoto Nanaya turned into a rabbit and locked me in an elevator... wtf?

I have no idea who that is but it's about goddamn time you started this game.

The english voice of that rabbit sounds like the english voice of Makoto from Blazblue, and it's weirding me out dood...

Also, I rage quitted finding that third key cause fuck your easy mode.
And it's good to know Phi's not a man, it's hard to tell these days...

Quote from: Hakudamashi on October 07, 2013, 08:52:51 AM
The english voice of that rabbit sounds like the english voice of Makoto from Blazblue, and it's weirding me out dood...

Also, I rage quitted finding that third key cause fuck your easy mode.
And it's good to know Phi's not a man, it's hard to tell these days...

That would be because they're voiced by the same person.

I didn't get the third key on my first playthrough of that part either. Those gold/silver documents aren't important to get right away. In fact, sometimes they can sorta spoil the story by giving you too much information that you're not supposed to have yet. However, there is a reason for getting all of them...

Phi's not Superman either. And she's not Batman, or Spiderman, or Aquaman, or a merman, or a wolfman, or a brahman, or common, or ramen, or a caiman.

Welp, got my first bad ending...

I first chose to go with Phi and Luna to the lounge cause Luna's adorable =V
And when the ambidex game came around, of course I chose ally, a cutie like that would never betray anyone, and I was right ^-^


Then Quark decided to go yandere on us and everyone got scared, oh noes D=

I went to the Rec room with Alice n' K cause that was the only way to get people to stop bitching, grrrr.
Then Luna died and I threw my Vita at my dog, but he's ok though, and the Vita is surprisingly durable.
Then K smooth talked me into allying and he betrayed me and took off like a bitch.
Well now I know who won't be invited to my birthday parties >=U

Quote from: Elija2 on October 07, 2013, 09:13:59 AM
That would be because they're voiced by the same person.

I mean, it even has Makoto's mannerisms and stuff, almost makes me wonder why they didn't go the extra mile and made it a squirrel instead of a rabbit.

You might want to put a case on your Vita if you're gonna be chucking it every time someone dies.

How are you finding the puzzle rooms? I know you hated them in the first game.

Not anyone, just Luna

Aha, but back then I had a hatred of puzzle games in general cause I was impatient, but since then I trained myself to obtain a mind more tolerable to "figuring things out" with games like Portal, the LoZ and Metroid franchises, etc. I got dis now.

And I gotta say, unlike other Point n' Click(Or Tap, as it were) games where you can solve the puzzle by just clicking/tapping randomly everywhere, this game requires you to have a well thought out plan and keen observation before you proceed, and these are solutions that make sense, fuck you easy mode, you suck and noone wants you.

Although I must question the rationale of the pool stick in the Rec Room. I mean, you get a ppol stick, and there's a pool table in the room, so naturally I assumed the 2 would be related, but NOPE, you use de stick to fuse with a wrench to make a key for a coin box for a children's ride...
But other than that's, it's been good so far... Quark scares me now...

Yeah, the only people I trusted at the beginning were Moony and Phido. I didn't even trust Cleaver because I knew the shit she pulled in the last game.

I must admit, I did use the easy mode to figure out the alternate solutions to some of the puzzles to get the secret documents. Some of the puzzles are really obtuse and not explained well. Two in particular I was stuck on for at least an hour before giving in and switching to easy mode.

So IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE!!!!!
I told K to fuck off and picked Betray, but he didn't mind it too much, I was left unsatisfied...
We found Captain Quark in a tube, I wanted to torch him, but K said no...
Then we found out The lion tamer dude killed the old lady, that jerk. So I sent my robot at him and locked him up in a pod. That'll learn him >=U
Cleavage and Gurmpygramps went missing, so we had to split up and find 'em, but more importantly, K's backstory, or at least some of it... It's quite the beautiful story, made me feels for the dude, *sob*
Then a phantom killed Dio in his tube, normally I'd rejoice, but without him, Phi n' Potassium can't progress, and they'll be executed, and I'll be sad.
Will not-Junpei be able to figure out how to save them before the door closes? Where are tits and blueshirt? Why is Luna not my wife?

Find out all the answers... later, cause I'm done for the night...

I already know all the answers.

Well, I got one of the endings that actually has ending credits and a piano song playing, but alot of sh*t went down and I need time to sort out my thoughts
So instead, here's a picture of Luna cause she's awesome and snuggable.
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And so it begins...

Also, the dude who wrote these games has a swimsuit fetish. I believe it's actually pointed out in one of the secret documents and is personified by Sigma who occasionally makes lewd remarks involving swimsuits. There is also official art of Phi and Clover in swimsuits floating around (pun intended) out there. Not Alice though, but I guess her clothes couldn't get more skimpy. I'm slightly upset by there being official art of Luna in a swimsuit. It just doesn't seem like something she would ever wear.

Quote from: Elija2 on October 08, 2013, 08:57:11 AM
I'm slightly upset by there being official art of Luna in a swimsuit. It just doesn't seem like something she would ever wear.

coughunlessshewasorderedtocough. Besides, it looks good on her >=U

So like, does this game do multiple character specific endings and some bad endings in conjunction with a true ending? Or is there still a one true ending?

Quote from: Hakudamashi on October 08, 2013, 09:15:48 AM
So like, does this game do multiple character specific endings and some bad endings in conjunction with a true ending? Or is there still a one true ending?

There is one true ending, but I won't say more than that.

Well, I wanted to continue the game again, but as per Eli's request, I'm gonna chronicle all of my play sessions with the game, and if I continue it now I may forget some of the things I did prior...

So, IN ANOTHER UNIVERSE TIMELINE
This time, I decided to go to the Gaulem area with Alice and  :-*Luna :-*. I think it's high time Dio and K settle their differences anyway =P
This is the time where I wish I got the 3DS version, this game needs a stylus, cause there's this certain cabinet under a computer that I needed to get, but because my fingers are quite large, I keep tapping the computer itself rather than the cabinet. This very issue made other puzzle rooms carry on a tad longer than I would've liked...
Anyway, solved the puzzle room, got the gold secret file(fuck yeah) and GTFO'd.
But then we got stopped by Yangus A robot with an accent who told us about the birds and the bees if ya know what I mean 8D, then he exploded... This is a sad day for DQ8 fans...

AMBIDEX ROOM TIME!!! But first we had to search for Quark... I know where he is, but because of timeline bullshit, I'm prevented from telling these bloke to go to where he is... But alas, we had to search... and K took :-*Luna :-* with him... I'll end him. Well, at least I got more quality time with Phi, and that's just as precious ^-^. Apparently she likes food, good to know, food is good and keeps you alive.Noone could find Quark to my annoyance, but we did find a dead body... Alice's to be exact... She was too hot for this world I suppose. Then Cleavage got all angst and jolted off, like she's never seen a dead body before or something, the wimp.

Then it was time to vote.My opponent was :-*Luna :-*, so of course I chose Ally, cause c'mon, regardless of my promise to her, which cold hearted monster would even think to betray this gentle soul? Itou that's who, and I hate him  >:(.
Phi unleashed her inner Samus Aran and won 69 internets, while Cleavage and Temni bickered about...something. But now we searched for Quark... again.... even though I know where he is... They won't even let me go with :-*Luna :-* this time to make this search more pleasant, instead I go with the almost equally as awesome Phi who's always fun to chat to, she makes the trip worth it ^-^.
We found the next set of chromatic doors, Dio's still acting suspicious, and K told us that :-*Luna :-*'s dead...
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And Cleavage n' Temni are missing... Can this day get any more shit?

But anywho, drama happened about opening the doors, tl;dr, K decked Phi n' Sigma cause they got cold feet.
Then to the Security Room we went, where I really wish I had a stylus ._.
But anyway, got the gold file, and the key, but thanks to Yangu...er... the Golem Gaulem robot with the funny accent from earlier, we gots info on the motherfuckers who killed Alice and :-*Luna :-*, then Sigma's brain stopped working... well shit...
After, we went to look for Cleavage and Temni... and we found them... I think you know where I'm going with this...
Soooooooooooooooo, we went to look for Dio and K...and we found them.... eeyup... that armour is apparently just for show after all...
Sooooooooooooooooooooo, Phi n' Sigma got tense, which I mean Sigma was being a pussy, and Phi had to keep her pimp hand strong.
We poked around in the Director's room and found a computer which I knew the username and password to, cause NOW he wants to use the power to manipulate the timeline...
So we found out :-*Luna :-*'s a robot... She really was too good to be true... But now she "lives" again, and that made me happy.

VOTE TIME!!!
Phi n' I had to choose to either Ally or Betray :-*Luna :-*... but... even if she is a robot, even if she is under Zero's control, even if she may be responsible for all this, she was still :-*Luna :-*, nay, my :-*Luna :-*, and there was no way I could bring myself to ever betray her, ever. And guess what, she did the same, she believed in me as I believed in her, and I got a tad giddy when I saw "999", made me feel like I made the right choice. Now Phi and Sigma had enough M'cguffins to escape, but first, we gotta find Quark, we haven't seen his dead body, ergo, he must be alive. And so said so done.
Phi wanted to leave with Sigma n' Quark, but fuck that, either I leave with :-*Luna :-*, or I don't leave at all. But Phi did get out, and that made me happy and relieved...

I found :-*Luna :-*, and we had a nice long and hard talk. I proposed to her and she said yes, then we used the dragon balls to make her human, and we had many beautiful children together and lived happily ever after.

That last part was bullshit btw.

You can't use the thumbstick to manually move a pointer around the screen and select things? You can in the 3DS version.

And I'm surprised you got Luna's ending so soon. It was one of the last ones that I got (it was the first path that I took but I didn't know the credentials to the computer). I was hoping you wouldn't have gotten it until near the end too because I found you lusting over someone you didn't know to be a robot to be pretty funny.

Quote from: Elija2 on October 08, 2013, 03:42:30 PM
You can't use the thumbstick to manually move a pointer around the screen and select things? You can in the 3DS version.

Oh you can, you most certainly can, but it's got some sensitivity issues, and it twitches like a guy trippin on acid. The slightest tap in one direction sends it half-way across the screen. Not to mention it seems to have an issue with picking up changes in direction...

Also can I just say that my least favourite character so far is Sigma? I find his overractions and his need to lash out at people to be unfunny and annoying... To me, he's a step down from Junpei.

It also appears to me that this cast is...um... "less intelligent" than the 999 cast.

That's weird, the sensitivity on the 3DS version was totally fine.

I liked Junpei better too. Better get used to Sigma though because I think he'll be returning in the third game.

And explain what you mean by "less intelligent". Phi, Alice, and Luna are pretty smart, and Quark's a kid so what do you expect.

If I recall correctly, whenever the cast of 999 entered a puzzle, through their dialogue they clearly show how well educated they were by talking about all this science stuff, and I don't remember anyone having to explain much of anything, most of the explanations came from Junpei's inner thoughts since he too understood what was going on.

But in this game... well... noone knew what a drink mixer was until after they tried it out?
Mind you it doesn't bother me too much, but still, other than Quark, these are supposed to be adults...


But I think I did figure one thing that is bugging me about this game. Maybe it's just me, but isn't there a lot less banter in the puzzle rooms? Before, whenever something went right or wrong Junpei would make smartass remarks, or a joke, and your partners would respond and converse for a bit, and they got fleshed out more. In fact, wasn't it in a puzzle room where Santa made a remark about Lotus' outfit?
But in this one, they simply just acknowledge that something happened, or didn't happen, then they just move on. Character development is done strictly in the novel sections.

Or was 999 like that too and I'm just remembering wrong?

Yeah, you're kinda right. I think they may have dumbed this game down a bit to appeal to a greater audience. The writer himself even said that he was forced to make this game less violent than 999 because that game was apparently too gory for some people. As I said before though, characters like Phi, Alice, and Luna seem to know what they're doing. Also, I will say that the ending to this game is more confusing than 999's and requires more thought to understand it.

And you're right again that there is less banter in the puzzle rooms compared to 999, but there is still a decent amount of banter and character development being made there. I'd give examples, but I don't want to spoil things you may not have come across yet. In 999 certain dialog choices that you made in the puzzle rooms (which were fairly obvious) could unlock different endings, so that contributed to character development as well. I'm glad they took that out because it was kinda pointless. "Oh, a four-leaf clover bookmark? Nah, I won't take it with me even though I have no reason not to."

So, the curse of going mainstream...

Cause the banter in the puzzle rooms is what motivated me to beat 999, since I hated puzzles soo much.
Now, choosing who I go into the rooms with seem... "inconsequential"for lack of a better word. You just go and solve the room and get out... And as I mentioned before, unlike Junpei, Sigma ain't exactly a barrel of laughs, so there aren't even any snappy monologues to lighten the mood.
Well, there was that scene with Alice and K in the rec room...

There's still some silly banter to be had. You haven't paired up with Clover yet, have you?

Actually, that's the very next thing I was going to do.

*random third guy*

Is this a VN?
If yes, i'll probably get it for 3DS.

Quote from: Hakudamashi on October 09, 2013, 03:27:58 PM
Actually, that's the very next thing I was going to do.

Well there you go.

Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on October 09, 2013, 03:35:44 PM
*random third guy*

Is this a VN?
If yes, i'll probably get it for 3DS.

Did you play the first game? If not, what the hell is wrong with you and do it now.

But yes, it's a VN with puzzles in it.

Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on October 09, 2013, 03:35:44 PM
*random third guy*

Is this a VN?
If yes, i'll probably get it for 3DS.

It's 999;s sequel. It best played on DS so you can fully experience the first one.

sigh.... man, where did Proto Blaze go?

Quote from: SmashFinale on October 09, 2013, 09:08:27 PM
sigh.... man, where did Proto Blaze go?

He went on a journey to spread the Good Word of Zero Escape to the masses.

That or he's in college.

Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on October 09, 2013, 03:35:44 PM
*random third guy*

Is this a VN?
If yes, i'll probably get it for 3DS.

PLEASE get the 3DS version, playing this shit without a stylus is a pain!

Be warned that the 3DS version has the save-corruption glitch.

So, to continue the branches on the path that I was on, the game is telling me I have to betray Luna, which I'll never do, so if it's required to get the true ending...then shit...

Anyway, started back to the first set of chromatic doors. This time Phi n' I partnered with Alice in the crew quarters... If you guys can just imagine how awkward this was for me. Oh, the characters have no idea what's happened, but I remember everything @_@
Phi n' Alice went ahead to check some of the rooms ahead of me to search the place, only to have found nothing... not the key parts on the desk, not the openable bed, and certainly not the phones with the cassete player slots, yup, they sure checked those rooms thoroughly... Oh, and Sigma's been cursed by demon cats to make cats puns everytime he talks about cats... so there's that.
Got the gold file, and GTFO'd

THE AB GAME ERMAHGAWD!!!!!
Phi gave me a lecture about the prisoner's dilemma and stuff and why the logical choice would be to choose betray, then I had a vision we're all gonna die. That MUST mean that following what people tell me to do will lead to our death, and I must defy them at every turn, so I chose ally
When I saw the results, it was quite clear to me that Cleavage and I are gonna have some issues. Dio, Quark and Luna had a little happy moment, cause every moment with Luna is a joyous one ^-^, y'know, till someone dies... And Alice betrayed me, so now I only have 1 BP... well darn...

Then we split up to look around the place for an exit or something, and at this point I really wished Dio wasn't the "villian", he seems like a pretty cool dude, kinda like the same issue I have with Hazama in Blazblue... infact I'm drawing alot of parallels with Blazblue... I'm convinced this author is a fan of Blazblue, even if he doesn't admit it.
But anyway, there's a bomb in house, probably many much of them, and someone's got the trigger... And Phi explained how sex is like an explosion, but enough about that, the chromatic doors are open.

Due to a democracy, I had to go with Luna and Alice into the garden, a time I would enjoy, if Sigma wasn't being a big baby >_>.
The garden, a nice, simple location, I got through just fine, but I couldn't get the gold file this time, my regular process of "input the thing backwards" didn't work, and after 30mins, I ran out of patience to figure it out, so I just left.

Anyway, turns out the reason Quark scared me wasn't cause he's crazy, he's just been infected with a highly dangerous virus that makes him creepy and want to kill himself, and apparently makes him strong enough to hold back 3 men and Phi. Then Alice got infected. We have the cure, but it's only enough for 1 person. Then I got another "To Be Continued".
Can we found out how to split the doe in 2? What is the deal with "All Ice"? Is it crazy that this is the first route where nobody's died? Will somebody draw me a pornographic picture of Alice without that stupid gold thing around her tits? Did everyone just forget about the bomb(s)?

I think you're gonna have to betray Luna eventually, so have fun with that.

Quote from: Elija2 on October 11, 2013, 09:20:37 AM
I think you're gonna have to betray Luna eventually, so have fun with that.

Then this game is full of shit.

Hey, you could always just pretend that those timelines never happened.

Quote from: Elija2 on October 11, 2013, 10:14:34 AM
Hey, you could always just pretend that those timelines never happened.

But I would still have to live through it. And if I'm just gonna mute the volume and look away from the screen, then what's the point?

But anyway, I rewinded to the point where Alice betrayed me, so I chose betray this time.
Then, shit got messed up.
So apparently Sigma is aware of his time-bending powers, cause apparently he remember what happened previously and chose to pick betray this time. But then something went wrong and Alice picked ally, which made her quite upset. So like, is this the game's way of saying NO to save scumming? When you pick a choice, it never goes away? Someone explain pls...

But anyway, onto the next set of chromatic doors where this time a ticked off Alice made Luna&I pair with Phi to go to the control room. That room was annoying, but I got a very spoilerific gold file, and the key to get out... And a Blackberry...What is this I don't even...

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand then a repeat of the previous timeline, except this time there is no medicine, soooooo THE AMBIDEX ROOM YEYS!!!!

Luna&I had to go against Phi, so you'd think "No shit, pick ally, then go get the medicine"... but no... Phi didn't....do that...
She was talking some shit about how I betrayed her in a previous timeline and now she's pissed, mind you this is of a timeline I have no idea of, or have ever done, so I guess these "multiple paths" are set in stone...
Anyway, she has 9BP and opened the door, leaving us all to die... Then Sigma's brain stopped working... "To Be Continued"

I told you that those gold files can contain spoilers. I recommend you stop looking at them until after you beat the game. What did that one say?

That Alice is apart of the Government, the Blackberry I picked up will stop the bombs, and Sig/The Author has a swimsuit fetish.

Now, IN AN ALTERNATE TIMELINE!!!
I betrayed Phi, but she picked ally, she didn't like that very, swore vengeance upon my mortal soul, then got the big dumb robot man to knock me out...

NOW BACK TO THAT OTHER TIMELINE!!!
I convinced Phi to stay this time even though she has 9BP. So now we set off to find the 02 bomb, but not before Phi explained to me that she's a DC fantard, and how why I, the player, shouldn't go WTF when Sigma selectively decides when to acknowledge he can time jump, or world jump as the case may be...

But aywho, we met back up with everyone, and Sigma using the power of save states, now knows who set the bombs... then "To Be Continued"... Or for f*ck's sake, seriously? We all know Dio set the bombs, why even do this?

Stop reading the files.

Betray Luna next.

Quote from: Elija2 on October 11, 2013, 12:16:25 PM
Betray Luna next.

Anyway, alternate timeline time. I went to the Archives with Cleavage and Luna. Dem f*cking bookcases, oh mah gawd, this Vita better come with a stylus accessory before I beat this game or someone's gonna get hurt  >:(
But anyway, repeated scenes, but this time having Alice kill herself resulted in a Game Over... what made this death in particular so special? But anyway, I immediately repeated the scenario and Sigma use his world jumping superpowers to get to Alice before she kills herself, woohoo.

So into the AB rooms to vote, since Clover stayed behind with Alice, no shit I had to choose ally, what kind of monster would choose betray at a time like this? But not before discovering that Sigma was sprouting jizz from his palm, dude, that's gross.
But for the first time ever since I started this game, everyone chose Ally
But now, about that jizz, it's not stopping... So now Luna wanted to have a talk with me... alone... just the two of us... in the garden.


That's it, whoever the fuck Luna's English voice actress is, you've just earned yourself a new stalker!

But Luna thinks the jizz outta my hands is cause I'm a robot... Sigma's the robot... ain't that some shit. I mean, we should listen to Luna about robots, I think she would know a thing or two about robots, just saying...
But Phi sneaked in and ruined our moment, was probably lonely, but we found the bomb. And the same shit happened as last time even the "To Be Continued", f*cking Dio is right there guys...

Imagine the hot robo-sex that Sigma and Luna would have.

Do robots even have genitalia?

And I found out Luna's voice actress is Laura Bailey... someone who is already in my top 3 favourite voice  actresses of all time... I couldn't lover her anymore than I already do if I tried...

They could. I mean, Luna looks like a real human in every other aspect.

I'm sure your feelings are mutual.

Quote from: Elija2 on October 12, 2013, 06:36:23 AM
They could. I mean, Luna looks like a real human in every other aspect.

What would a robot vagina even feel like?

Quote from: Hakudamashi on October 12, 2013, 06:15:30 PM
What would a robot vagina even feel like?

A fleshlight?

Hmmm, I've never used one...

Anyway, over the weekend, by an act of GOD, I was able to get both PKMN Y and Wonderful 101... sooooooooooo, these log entries are going on a bit of a hiatus...

Booooooo.

Adventure Log # Who gives a f*ck, goooooo.

Decided to dial back to the time where I could betray Clover to get the obvious bad ending out of the way, and boy was it a doozy. Didn't expect them to cut his f*cking arm off, but that's what you get for being a cunt.

Now I'm gonna get the "Betray Luna" business out of the way, which actually becomes surprisingly easy to do with how much a s scmuck ass bitch Sigma is, and realise ppl are angry at this f*cker and not you... f*ck Sigma.
The first being the bad ending where Tenmyouji grabs his kids and GTFO cause OMG there's a killer on the loose.

The Second was the alternate to the amazing Luna ending, where she was soo stricken with divines sadness that she just grabbed Quark from hammer space and GTFO leaving Sigma and Phi alone in a building full of dead bodies...

And the third and final one where we get the option to betray her the first time, but it was more Phi and Luna bickering about it so no skin off my bones.
I also finally got clarification on what Alice Clover and K were bickering about after round one. But anyway then next puzzle room had to be done with Alice and Clover because trust issues, and it was in the panties pantry. Solvd the puzzles, got the gold file, didn't read it, GTFO'd booyah.
And y'know the drill, Quark's gone missing, Alice suicided, Luna's in stasis, blahblahblah, TO THE AB GAME.
Clover being soo stricken with Alice's death, it was easy to manipulate her into choosing Ally, but then Phi came and laid down the logics of choosing Betray... so Ally and stay with Clover, or Betray and leave with Phi.... Why is this even a option? F*ck Clover
So now I finally get to see the outside of this place... and it's in the middle of a f*cking desert... 's great. But then alternate timeline Phi came to get shit done, we got much needed info out of Dio, and this story is now, of all things, bringing religion into this... for the love of-

It's about goddamn time.

Also, WTF? Dio's end is a big dumb cliff hanger...

All of the endings are cliffhangers.

Luna's wasn't
Phi escapes, Luna gets shut down, and Sigma withers away in the bulding till he goes mad and dies. That's enough closure for me.

Dio's is like
"I'll take you to this place"
"What place?"

The End

...

Luna's is probably the only ending that isn't a big cliffhanger. I actually forget what most of the endings are though. That's how unmemorable they are!

SSooooo, the "Second of the trilogy" curse?
Except Luna, cause she's the best thing ever.

Nah, it just can't top the original. 999's story is less ambitious but absolutely perfect. VLR tries to be something bigger but it kinda does a sloppy job at it. There are so many more endings that it's hard to keep track.

With a less likeable cast(IMO) and much less room for the characters to just breathe and flesh out.

It's funny because I like Clover less in VLR than I do in 999 even though she was a murdering psychopath in that game. They just made her character so bland and annoying.

Also I don't even know why they made Alice into an actual character. I guess because they had to address her sudden appearance in 999's ending.

I think I've played this game long enough to confidently say that the only characters that hold my interest are Phi, Dio and Luna. I liked K in the beginning, but then he just mellowed out for me after awhile, in contrast to 999 where everyone, especially the main character Junpei were cool and interesting, and those who weren't at the begining(like Clover for me) eventually grew on me.

Y'know what I think this game is missing? And I think I've already mentioned it, this game just goes from one shock value cene to another, leaving no room for the characters to just... dick around y'know? to learn more about them. The only ones allowed that opportunity are Phi, Dio and Luna(Which is funny cause Luna's out of commission for most of the game).
And it's annoying how everything needs to be explained, I mean seriously, NOONE knew what a globe was?

You're not a fan of Phi? I liked her.

And you definitely learn more about the characters as the game goes on. I think they're just not eager to be open amongst each other because it's a game of ally or betrayal and nobody can be trusted, especially since shit hits the fan early with the dead old lady. In 999 everyone was forced to work together and had no reason to go against each other until later when either Snake or someone else was found dead.

Quote from: Elija2 on November 14, 2013, 11:10:13 AM
You're not a fan of Phi? I liked her.

And you definitely learn more about the characters as the game goes on. I think they're just not eager to be open amongst each other because it's a game of ally or betrayal and nobody can be trusted, especially since shit hits the fan early with the dead old lady. In 999 everyone was forced to work together and had no reason to go against each other until later when either Snake or someone else was found dead.

Wait, when did I say I didn't like Phi?

I get that, and I think it's to the game's detriment.

I misread, my bad.

And I think you should finish the game before judging it completely.

Had to go all the back to the first puzzle choice cause everything else is a dead end.
Went to the infirmary with Phi and Tenmyouji, and got the super secret super gold file.
And in the AB game, serious back stabbing took place, which caused some serious unwanted tension.
Dio said the exact thing I've been thinking this whole time about that supposed News Article about Radical 6, and Clover and Alice make references to 999, the better game., and christ Clover has been kidnapped 3 f*cking times wit hher life in danger and she just brushes it off...
Quark goes insane, but Alice hasn't yet, I'm surprised

But anyway, went into the PCE room with Clover and Tenmyouji, cause Tenmy's a cool dood, and got the golden file.
On our way back, the cure fro Radical 6 has been found, so Quark's back to normal, and Alice is still sane, 2 puzzles rooms ha ve gone and everyone's still alive and well... That means we might actually get plot done, and so said so done as we found a memory card that might have told the origin of Radical 6, and that this virus doesn't f*ck around...

But anyway, time to vote where Clover, all of a sudden, out of f*cking nowhere, decides to pull this total 180 slut persona to try to get me to screw Tenmyouji. I thought she was just trolling, but she was quite serious. maybe being kidnapped 3 times has made her insane...
Also, Dio was cool with kill both Luna and Phi in one fell swoop,
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/158/b/f/Sonic_Sez_That__s_No_Good_by_jared811111.jpg)

But yeah, Alice killed herself, cause she has case of the crazies, but noone else knows that now do they...
But then Clover threatens to kill everyone... then to be continued...
Weak.

I like how Alice's appearance at the end of 999 was kind of a joke, but when making VLR they had to come up with a serious reason for her being there.

And then have her die... all the time...

Even they knew she was a useless character.

So if Clover lives in the cannon does that mean Lotus and Santa die? Laaaaaaaaaaaame.

Quote from: jkid101094 on November 15, 2013, 10:03:47 PM
So if Clover lives in the cannon does that mean Lotus and Santa die? Laaaaaaaaaaaame.

You didn't even finish 999 so I suggest you either correct that sin or get the hell out of this topic.

I read the wiki. Whoops.

I'm never finishing 999, though, so bite me.

Oh yeah? Well I'm never finishing...uhh...my Pokemon Pokedex.

Reading a 999 synopsis on a wiki is like having someone describe art to you instead of seeing it for yourself. You're literally missing out on an amazing story and one of the greatest gaming experiences ever.

Oh right, I remember. You hated the puzzles just like Wind Haku. Maybe when the inferior iOS port without the puzzles comes out in English you'll give it another chance.

Quote from: Elija2 on November 16, 2013, 09:50:17 PM
Oh yeah? Well I'm never finishing...uhh...my Pokemon Pokedex.

Reading a 999 synopsis on a wiki is like having someone describe art to you instead of seeing it for yourself. You're literally missing out on an amazing story and one of the greatest gaming experiences ever.

Oh right, I remember. You hated the puzzles just like Wind Haku. Maybe when the inferior iOS port without the puzzles comes out in English you'll give it another chance.

It wasn't just the puzzles though. I hated the story too. I spent the first three chapters bored out of my mind then quit because I couldn't take it anymore. Not to mention Tana helped over hype it beyond belief so the expectations I had going into it were far greater than what I actually played.

Quote from: jkid101094 on November 16, 2013, 10:07:39 PM
It wasn't just the puzzles though. I hated the story too. I spent the first three chapters bored out of my mind then quit because I couldn't take it anymore. Not to mention Tana helped over hype it beyond belief so the expectations I had going into it were far greater than what I actually played.

I don't understand how you could find the story boring when interesting stuff happens all the damn time, even outside of the mandatory endings. The 9th guy getting blown up, Snake going missing, the two mysterious bodies that were found, Seven and Lotus' past, Santa's Santa story, reminiscing with Akane, finding the gun, and of course all the crazy bad endings. I can understand if thrillers aren't your thing and you prefer a sappy love story, but to call the story boring is fucking nuts. I overhyped the game too which got Wind Haku to play it but even he eventually loved it.

Not sure if I would say "loved"...

Quote from: Hakudamashi on November 18, 2013, 06:37:55 PM
Not sure if I would say "loved"...

Is "thoroughly enjoyed the story but merely tolerated the puzzles" more accurate?

There ya go  ;)

The only one I remember off the top of my head was the 9th Man getting blown up and even then that wasn't really interesting. Who the hell cares about a douchebag that literally appeared on screen five minutes ago?

Quote from: jkid101094 on November 19, 2013, 04:50:48 AM
The only one I remember off the top of my head was the 9th Man getting blown up and even then that wasn't really interesting. Who the hell cares about a douchebag that literally appeared on screen five minutes ago?

Because it sets the tone for the rest of the game. If everyone doesn't work together they will all die.

Were you just distracted by Lotus' breasts the whole time?

Quote from: Elija2 on November 19, 2013, 05:06:52 AM
Because it sets the tone for the rest of the game. If everyone doesn't work together they will all die.

Were you just distracted by Lotus' breasts the whole time?

The tone for the game was set before I even started playing it. Either way I still found it hard to care about anything that was going on.

And Lotus' breasts are lovely and all but I like her outfit a lot more. There were characters I was interested in, obviously, I just didn't give a flying fuck about the other seven people.

Huh, I'd think you'd at least give a sh*t about June...

Quote from: jkid101094 on November 19, 2013, 05:13:43 AM
The tone for the game was set before I even started playing it. Either way I still found it hard to care about anything that was going on.

And Lotus' breasts are lovely and all but I like her outfit a lot more. There were characters I was interested in, obviously, I just didn't give a flying fuck about the other seven people.

Maybe you're just an uncaring person.

You're the only person I know who likes Lotus' outfit. I think that tells me all I need to know about your tastes.

Quote from: Elija2 on November 19, 2013, 06:47:19 AM
Maybe you're just an uncaring person.

You're the only person I know who likes Lotus' outfit. I think that tells me all I need to know about your tastes.

I've never denied it.

It's really cute. Nothing I'd wear but still.

What are some examples of good visual novels in your opinion?

So
Betrayed Tenmyouji this time for sex, and didn't get it.
The rewinded back to when I went through the laboratory with Clover and Dio, which, much to my shock, is the only level soo far that had the character banter I've been asking for, actually got me to like Clover...
But then Dio had to be a colossal douchenozzle and took the cure to get me n' Clover to pick Ally.
While Sigma contemplates whether to kill himself or a small child, Phi read this journal that tells us about /^-6.

But anyway, I allyed Dio, he betrayed Sigma, now Sigma's gonna die, and nothing of value was lost. But I do like how while all of that was going on, noone seems to give a sh*t that Alice is missing, and she and K apparently betrayed Tenmyouji, who wasn't even there. It's like even the game doesn't give a f*ck about Alice.

I can't believe you were planning to cheat on Luna.

I can't account for what Sigma does =P. I on the other hand would never cheat on Luna

But anyway, using psychic prowers, I went back to that one loose end when Clover was gonna kill everyone(ha) and explained to her about the Raidical Sex is why Alice died.
But anyway, into the Director's office with Tenmyouji and Quark, and again, I get the banter between characters that I've been yearning for, better late than never I guess...
Also, wth? Tenmyouji knows Akane? How? Did I miss something in 999?

But after that was over, ZERO APPEARED. TO TALK ABOUT TERMITES. FUCKING TERMITES, WTF DOES TERMITES HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?

But that's besides the point, AB game time and since it's tenmy and Quark, there's no way they'd betray me right? Oh who am I kidding... But the good news is that I got Tenmyouji's ending that actually gave me feels =U.

The story is getting good...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/xkittenxgirlx/Spongebob-1.gif)

So, with my knowledge of that IG Duplicator thingie, I went back in time to the point where we had one Axelavair, but 2 radical 6 patients. We duplicated that sh*t and viola, everyone's alive, for the first time ever, now Alice can actually do sh*t., but gotta play that AB game first.
So naturally, Alice wasn't awake yet, so I picked Ally... imagine my face when I saw that somehoe Alice picked Betray...
So naturally, I rewinded and betrayed the bitch, also, for the first time ever, everyone picked betray...
(http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae153/Whitly12/sakura_rage.png)
Angst, soo much angst, too much angst, can't handle this angst.

But anyway, time to spend quality time with the woman who tried to kill me, and goddammit, they actually got me to care about Alice =U(Though I must question what was with her clothes at the end of 999... or her current clothes for that matter)
But anyway, using the power of magic and DC, we have finally figured out something I've figured out ages ago, yes, Dio set the f*cking bombs...then we all died.

So then I warped to one of the 2 times where I can expose Dio. To no avail, the bombs still went off, and we all still die, but not without finding out Sigma has robotic arms

Quote from: Hakudamashi on November 20, 2013, 07:03:35 PM
So then I warped to one of the 2 times where I can expose Dio. To no avail, the bombs still went off, and we all still die, but not without finding out Sigma has robotic arms

Maybe you can have sex with Luna after all.

Quote from: Elija2 on November 21, 2013, 04:25:05 AM
Maybe you can have sex with Luna after all.

That'd be great.

So um, I stayed up till 4am beating this thing... and I did... all my gasps. I dunno how I can type a log without giving out any relevant spoilers, so maybe I should just give my final thoughts...

Quote from: Hakudamashi on November 21, 2013, 06:49:25 AM
So um, I stayed up till 4am beating this thing... and I did... all my gasps. I dunno how I can type a log without giving out any relevant spoilers, so maybe I should just give my final thoughts...

You're the only other person here who seems to give a shit about Zero Escape so you might as well post everything.

Is there a reason why Akane is just leaving Junpei n the dark?

I guess I should tell you that a sort of 'bonus ending' unlocks after you get all the gold files.

Already saw it, they introduce the 3rd protagonist, Junpei gives up on Akane to be a father, Clover and Alice accept that they're f*cked, and Luna's still adorable.

Still don't get why Akane is keeping Junpei in the dark though. I mean, why avoid him and keep this stuff to herself all these years, then just jerk him around at the last minute?

I forget, but didn't she say something about being ashamed of what she did and too embarrassed to face Junpei?

Don't forget to read the answers. (http://virtueslastreward.com/qahome/)

Quote from: Elija2 on November 21, 2013, 04:11:36 PM
I forget, but didn't she say something about being ashamed of what she did and too embarrassed to face Junpei?

She said no such thing
In fact, in the ending where we went to the Q room, she was quite pleased to see him, and according to the answers, the 2 are still very much fond of each other. Which just raises the question of why was she keeping him in the dark? They're espers of the same wavelength or whatever and can communicate telepathically, and hell, even jump into each other's bodies, why not let him in on this plan to save the world?

Also, yey, there's a real Luna.

I'm not so sure if Akane and Junpei's feelings are mutual anymore. While Akane wished that she could have spent her life with Junpei, Junpei felt that the Akane he knew was gone. I guess we'll find out in the next game.

Also, I don't think the mystery person in the secret ending is a third protagonist. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to represent the player.

Maybe that can change if Sigma fixes this radical 6 issue and relieves the stress off of Akane in time for her to see Junpei before he ragequits.

Also, it just occurred to me that Phi tried to flirt with an old man...ew.

It's funny because there are a couple of parts in the game where the other characters call you an old man or make jokes about your age but since you don't know that you're an old man they all go right over your head.

So...closing thoughts? How do you think it compares to 999? What are some things it does better or worse in your opinion? Will you be getting the next game (you pretty much have to at this point)?

Quote from: Elija2 on November 21, 2013, 06:00:31 PM
It's funny because there are a couple of parts in the game where the other characters call you an old man or make jokes about your age but since you don't know that you're an old man they all go right over your head.

Actually, there was the one where I grabbed Dio's leg and he yelled "LET ME GO YOU SENILE OLD FART", and Junpei was nowhere near him, that's when I confirmed my suspicion that this was in the future(y'know, cause the recording for the Nevada test site was on the same day that today was supposed to be), that Alice, Clover and Phi were in the pods in the treatment center, which was why they didn't age a day, and with this whole talk about sending your conciousness to another timeline, I made a guess that Sigma was Zero coming up with some obscure way to go far enough back in time to stop Radical 6... Imagine my face when all that sh*t was revealed...


Welp. final thoughts? Before you start unlocking the "To Be Continued" scenarios, the game was very meh for me, and I've already covered why, more than once.
But then you start unlocking the "To Be Continued" scenarios, and actual plot started happening, then it took me for a ride indeed. I ended up liking all the characters, I found it's plot to be gripping, and it's pace well done.
However, where 999 kept me intrigued and entertained from start to finish, VLR didn't make me start giving a sh*t until after the halfway point.

Whether I get the 3rd one or not, only time will tell, but I do know that if I do get it, I'm getting it on the system with a f*cking stylus.

Well, I guess that's it. Now I can't nag at you to finish this game anymore. I need to find someone else to nag at.

Tana played 999, right? I wonder where that dude is. And SmashFinale. And ProtoBlaze. And Kyo. And...Draco?

Y'know what I would've liked to see?
For the timelines where Akane was in the K armour, have K act more friendly to Tenmyouji, almost as if to hint that K is gay.
Y'know, have K want to be paired with him for the puzzle rooms, have K always choose "Ally" when against him, have the 2 always in the same room n' all that stuff.

Yeah, that would have been a nice touch but maybe Akane wasn't able to because she had to ensure that certain timelines happen.

Also, Aksys put up a survey about the Zero Escape series (http://aksysgames.com/survey/index.php/829819/lang-en). You should fill it out to give them your opinion on the games. It could affect the next one.

Quote from: Elija2 on November 29, 2013, 06:58:51 AM
Yeah, that would have been a nice touch but maybe Akane wasn't able to because she had to ensure that certain timelines happen.

That's a lot of restraint...
(http://media.tumblr.com/1e38ea57f8765e5ff6b127cdedd2e3e5/tumblr_inline_mglzyzPIxY1qjc7b7.png)

Quote from: Elija2 on November 29, 2013, 06:58:51 AM
Also, Aksys put up a survey about the Zero Escape series (http://aksysgames.com/survey/index.php/829819/lang-en). You should fill it out to give them your opinion on the games. It could affect the next one.

"Have a nice trick"

Quote from: Hakudamashi on November 29, 2013, 07:15:17 AM
That's a lot of restraint...
(http://media.tumblr.com/1e38ea57f8765e5ff6b127cdedd2e3e5/tumblr_inline_mglzyzPIxY1qjc7b7.png)

What's the point of having a boyfriend if you're dead?

But what if that boyfriend can help you not die?

I guess we'll just have to play the third game to see if their relationship goes anywhere!