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GENERAL => Video Games => Topic started by: shadowDOESrock on January 14, 2014, 06:52:27 AM

Title: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: shadowDOESrock on January 14, 2014, 06:52:27 AM
http://kotaku.com/i-help-make-video-games-and-im-sick-of-the-hatred-fro-1500603631 (http://kotaku.com/i-help-make-video-games-and-im-sick-of-the-hatred-fro-1500603631)
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: jkid101094 on January 14, 2014, 07:40:20 AM
What does this have to do with me, again?
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: Hakudamashi on January 14, 2014, 08:19:50 AM
Then embrace those who love your work and endure those who don't

Hate is a thing, not everyone is gonna like everything, get over it.
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: shadowDOESrock on January 14, 2014, 08:26:01 AM
Quote from: Hakudamashi on January 14, 2014, 08:19:50 AM
Then embrace those who love your work and endure those who don't

Hate is a thing, not everyone is gonna like everything, get over it.

Quote from: Fancy400I think you should reread the article. Saying a game sucks is fine, especially if it really is a disaster. Critcism is a good thing, it's how artforms grow and expand. What he's against, and what we should all be against is personal attacks against the developers. People complain about gamers being looked down upon by society, but if we actively tell people to go kill themselves, that we hope they and their family die or are injured, all that kind of stuff just because they made a game we don't like, and that's considered commonplace and acceptable, they are going to look down on us. And you know what? They're totally right to do so, because that's how toddlers behave, not people who are supposedly emotionally mature.
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: jkid101094 on January 14, 2014, 08:38:53 AM
Well considering I'm not asinine enough to do that in the first place I ask again;

Quote from: jkid101094 on January 14, 2014, 07:40:20 AM
What does this have to do with me, again?
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: Hakudamashi on January 14, 2014, 09:06:40 AM
Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on January 14, 2014, 08:26:01 AM

Hey, while we're at it, let's stop death threats for Megan Fox, Stephanie Meyer, Edward Cullen, Michael Bay, homosexuals, Kim Kardashian, Jersey Shore, Pewdiepie, black people, koreans...

Death threats are not exclusive to the game industry, they're just empty words of upset children with issues.
Those people exist, always have, always will, and it's not something you can just flip a switch and it'll go away, what we CAN do however is just embrace the love whenever it does pop up and keep doing the things we love because we love doing it.

And besides, I think the people who generalise an entire community based on the actions of a few loud children are the real jerks here, if they're gonna pretend that there is no good at all, then why should we try to impress them?
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: shadowDOESrock on January 14, 2014, 09:58:14 AM
Quote from: Hakudamashi on January 14, 2014, 09:06:40 AM
And besides, I think the people who generalise an entire community based on the actions of a few loud children are the real jerks here

The Generalisation (or rather Stereotyping) happens when the outsider sees it happen a lot.
e.g Americans are fat, Germans can't speak english, East-Europeans are violent, Asians are good at math and piano.

The Image moves with the community, hence why the old basement dweller stereotype is gone.

Quote from: Hakudamashi on January 14, 2014, 09:06:40 AM
Hey, while we're at it, let's stop death threats for Megan Fox, Stephanie Meyer, Edward Cullen, Michael Bay, homosexuals, Kim Kardashian, Jersey Shore, Pewdiepie, black people, koreans...

Death threats are not exclusive to the game industry, they're just empty words of upset children with issues.
Those people exist, always have, always will, and it's not something you can just flip a switch and it'll go away, [...]

That's why it has to be mentioned.
Only the mention of it will move minds, slowly changing things.

That is why, Anita Sarkassomething, despite her faulty research, moved gaming.

Someone made noise before to have you live in the current comfort that you do, remember that.
Sometimes loud, sometimes quiet.
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: Hakudamashi on January 14, 2014, 10:33:59 AM
But it seems to me that what you're asking is the elimination of this behaviour by getting upset at upset people, and to me, this seems like the wrong way to do it.

What I'm getting at, is that instead of treating this behaviour like it's some disease that can be cured, we should instead move the community forward by acknowledging and ecouraging all the good being done in the industry, y'know, show people what we do want, rather than focusing on what we don't want.

Like, instead of giving publicity to Anita Sarwhatever for causing a stir, why not give more publicity to AngryJoe speaking of why Youtube's new policy is a problem?

Yes, bad behaviour should be mentioned, but in order for us to move forward, let's focus on the positives.
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: jkid101094 on January 14, 2014, 10:53:42 AM
I think I've gotta take Wind's side in this one. You inadvertently turn these problems into jokes by trying to make them serious and nothing but. If Tumblr taught me anything it's that shoving problems into people's faces only makes them care less about them.

If we want to truly stop these things, we need to realize we can't.
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: shadowDOESrock on January 14, 2014, 08:18:17 PM
Imagine if everyone thought like that in history, where would we be?
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: jkid101094 on January 14, 2014, 09:54:08 PM
I think you're better off explaining that, considering you apparently know so much about world history.
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: Hakudamashi on January 15, 2014, 03:33:07 AM
Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on January 14, 2014, 08:18:17 PM
Imagine if everyone thought like that in history, where would we be?
You know neither of us know the answer to that.
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: shadowDOESrock on January 15, 2014, 04:03:13 AM
Quote from: Hakudamashi on January 15, 2014, 03:33:07 AM
You know neither of us know the answer to that.

Rhetorical
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: Hakudamashi on January 15, 2014, 08:47:39 AM
Then dun ask =U
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: jkid101094 on January 15, 2014, 10:06:16 AM
Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on January 15, 2014, 04:03:13 AM
Rhetorical
So in other words there was no point to that but to make you look like a tard.

OK.
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: shadowDOESrock on January 15, 2014, 10:20:37 AM
Quote from: jkid101094 on January 15, 2014, 10:06:16 AM
So in other words there was no point to that but to make you look like a tard.

Not my fault you didnt pay attention in history class
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: jkid101094 on January 15, 2014, 10:22:12 AM
History is boring. The past is gone. I'm moving forward.
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: Hakudamashi on January 15, 2014, 10:29:14 AM
Quote from: jkid101094 on January 15, 2014, 10:22:12 AM
History is boring. The past is gone. I'm moving forward.
Knowing the past is important tho =U
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: jkid101094 on January 15, 2014, 10:44:33 AM
Quote from: Hakudamashi on January 15, 2014, 10:29:14 AM
Knowing the past is important tho =U
Because it makes us less likely to repeat our mistakes?

History repeats itself anyway. The only people the past has any relevance to is historians and I'm not one of them.
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: Hakudamashi on January 15, 2014, 11:06:04 AM
Quote from: jkid101094 on January 15, 2014, 10:44:33 AM
Because it makes us less likely to repeat our mistakes?

History repeats itself anyway. The only people the past has any relevance to is historians and I'm not one of them.
It works for me =U

History repeats itself because people refuse to acknowledge past f*ck ups, or come with some ridiculous notion that they're smarter than the people who tried before.
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: shadowDOESrock on January 16, 2014, 04:05:16 AM
Quote from: jkid101094 on January 15, 2014, 10:44:33 AM
History repeats itself anyway. The only people the past has any relevance to is historians and I'm not one of them.

On a slightly related notion and out of curiosity - as an US American, do you not care for how the USA 'was made'?
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: Hakudamashi on January 16, 2014, 05:40:28 AM
Unless you're taking about the earthquake that seperated it into it's own continent, then I have no interest in America's origins for it is full of baloney
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: shadowDOESrock on January 16, 2014, 05:58:35 AM
Quote from: Hakudamashi on January 16, 2014, 05:40:28 AM
Unless you're taking about the earthquake that seperated it into it's own continent, then I have no interest in America's origins for it is full of baloney

1) Are you jkid
2) No, I'm talking about US American History
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: Hakudamashi on January 16, 2014, 06:00:46 AM
I would hope not

Is that the story of the not white people and the buffalo?
Title: Re: The Best Editorial I've read in a while... And it goes to all of you people.
Post by: jkid101094 on January 16, 2014, 12:11:53 PM
Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on January 16, 2014, 04:05:16 AM
On a slightly related notion and out of curiosity - as an US American, do you not care for how the USA 'was made'?
I know, yes, but I couldn't care less.