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GENERAL => Video Games => Topic started by: shadowDOESrock on November 22, 2014, 03:55:29 AM

Title: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 22, 2014, 03:55:29 AM
(http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/47/1416653583-civilization-online.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBACdkmZwAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLmEC1GQfks

QuoteCivilization Online is a unique new MMO in which players work together to build a civilization from the stone age to the space age. Create your custom avatar and then choose which role you will play in the expansion of your empire. Research and develop new technologies, construct buildings and great wonders, wage war, or conduct espionage to achieve victory over other players and civilizations in a dynamically changing world.

http://www.civilizationonline.com/
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: jkid101094 on November 22, 2014, 04:41:52 AM
So...A Sid Meyers ripoff with hotter women?
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 22, 2014, 04:55:47 AM
Quote from: jkid101094 on November 22, 2014, 04:41:52 AM
So...A Sid Meyers ripoff with hotter women?

It's spelled Sid Meier.
And it's an entry in the Civilization series, how can it rip-off the series its part of? lol
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: jkid101094 on November 22, 2014, 05:00:25 AM
Quote from: Crystal Candy on November 22, 2014, 04:55:47 AM
It's spelled Sid Meier.
I'm terrible with names. I doubt you knew that without looking it up either.

Quote from: Crystal Candy on November 22, 2014, 04:55:47 AM
And it's an entry in the Civilization series, how can it rip-off the series its part of? lol
Is it? I saw the lack of Sid's name and assumed it was something different.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 22, 2014, 05:18:22 AM
Quote from: jkid101094 on November 22, 2014, 05:00:25 AM
I doubt you knew that without looking it up either.

Not really... It's not like Meyer & Meier are pronounced the same either. .-.


Quote from: jkid101094 on November 22, 2014, 05:00:25 AM
Is it? I saw the lack of Sid's name and assumed it was something different.

Yeah, this is Civilization Online, a MMO spin-off of the Cvilization franchise, published by 2K and developed by XLGames. There's currently no release planned for outside of Asia, though.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Ioshyriku on November 22, 2014, 06:18:31 AM
Loved the trailer, looks like it's going to be pretty cool.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: jkid101094 on November 22, 2014, 06:46:32 AM
Quote from: Crystal Candy on November 22, 2014, 05:18:22 AM
Not really... It's not like Meyer & Meier are pronounced the same either. .-.
They sound the same to me.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 22, 2014, 06:55:42 AM
Quote from: jkid101094 on November 22, 2014, 06:46:32 AM
They sound the same to me.

Meyer is pronounced, well, Mey-er
Meier is prounounced Mai-er.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Elija2 on November 22, 2014, 09:47:41 AM
Fun Fact: Sid Meier was born in the same town as me and he is our second-greatest export.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 22, 2014, 10:12:35 AM
Quote from: Elija2 on November 22, 2014, 09:47:41 AM
Fun Fact: Sid Meier was born in the same town as me and he is our second-greatest export.

What's your greatest export?
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Elija2 on November 22, 2014, 10:16:04 AM
Quote from: Crystal Candy on November 22, 2014, 10:12:35 AM
What's your greatest export?

Chris Hadfield
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 22, 2014, 10:54:12 AM
Quote from: Elija2 on November 22, 2014, 10:16:04 AM
Chris Hadfield

Ah, you live in Sarnia.
The Picture is becoming clearer.

Soon.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Elija2 on November 22, 2014, 11:04:42 AM
Quote from: Crystal Candy on November 22, 2014, 10:54:12 AM
Ah, you live in Sarnia.
The Picture is becoming clearer.

Soon.

Well, I don't live there anymore so good luck stalking me.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 22, 2014, 01:16:14 PM
Quote from: Elija2 on November 22, 2014, 11:04:42 AM
Well, I don't live there anymore so good luck stalking me.

damn it
how will I ever get my canad- wait, no.


Anyway, people seem to hate this. "It aint Civilization" and that the Music "belongs to Lion King" and because of the artstyle.

Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Elija2 on November 22, 2014, 02:24:51 PM
And also because it's being developed by some random Korean company and was made for the Asian market.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 23, 2014, 01:02:43 AM
Quote from: Elija2 on November 22, 2014, 02:24:51 PM
And also because it's being developed by some random Korean company and was made for the Asian market.

What's that supposed to mean? How is that a reason to hate a game?
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Ioshyriku on November 23, 2014, 01:56:46 AM
Quote from: Crystal Candy on November 22, 2014, 01:16:14 PM
that the Music "belongs to Lion King
I guess they never played Civ 4, the poor souls.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Elija2 on November 23, 2014, 09:47:28 AM
Quote from: Crystal Candy on November 23, 2014, 01:02:43 AM
What's that supposed to mean? How is that a reason to hate a game?

Because it's an MMO cashgrab made by a cruddy developer.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 23, 2014, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: Elija2 on November 23, 2014, 09:47:28 AM
Because it's an MMO cashgrab made by a cruddy developer.

Cashgrab? It doesnt look like any MMO before it, the Soundtrack is fantastic, and the graphics are wonderful.

Cruddy? These developers used to be part of NCSoft; though the first game of this new studio, ArcheAge, wasn't mindblowingly good or anything.

How are they cruddy? Because they're new?

Are you one of those people that just hates on things?

Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Elija2 on November 23, 2014, 10:32:32 AM
This game was specifically made for the South Korean market because F2P MMOs with a million microtransactions do really well there. If 2K actually cared about it they'd develop it in-house and release it worldwide. This game was clearly only made so they can nickel-and-dime Korean players.

Quote from: Crystal Candy on November 23, 2014, 10:14:07 AM
Are you one of those people that just hates on things?

I thought you knew me, man!
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 23, 2014, 10:42:59 AM
Quote from: Elija2 on November 23, 2014, 10:32:32 AM
This game was specifically made for the South Korean market because F2P MMOs with a million microtransactions do really well there. If 2K actually cared about it they'd develop it in-house and release it worldwide. This game was clearly only made so they can nickel-and-dime Korean players.

Well, why would you not try to bring a succesful franchise into a market and change it accordingly? It's even doing unique things. It's not like they play anything else but online games there.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Elija2 on November 23, 2014, 10:51:31 AM
Quote from: Crystal Candy on November 23, 2014, 10:42:59 AM
Well, why would you not try to bring a succesful franchise into a market and change it accordingly? It's even doing unique things. It's not like they play anything else but online games there.

"Let's bring our successful franchise to a new market (as if Civilization isn't popular in Korea) and change things up."

"Let's make it a free-to-play MMO like everything else in said market."

And I'm sure whatever unique things they're doing is just to make it easier to sell people microtransactions.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 23, 2014, 01:51:06 PM
Quote from: Elija2 on November 23, 2014, 10:51:31 AM
"Let's bring our successful franchise to a new market (as if Civilization isn't popular in Korea) and change things up."

"Let's make it a free-to-play MMO like everything else in said market."

And I'm sure whatever unique things they're doing is just to make it easier to sell people microtransactions.

It's not like the main series is any better
(http://puu.sh/d31aX/4b7a90980a.jpg)


Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Elija2 on November 23, 2014, 01:59:41 PM
I'd say it's a lot better since all of that stuff is optional and the game doesn't tempt you to buy any of them. Plus the two expansion packs actually do add a good amount of new content.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 23, 2014, 02:04:56 PM
Quote from: Elija2 on November 23, 2014, 01:59:41 PM
I'd say it's a lot better since all of that stuff is optional and the game doesn't tempt you to buy any of them. Plus the two expansion packs actually do add a good amount of new content.

If you finish Civ 5 now, you get a button that says buy Beyond Earth to continue.

The last two korean games I've played were Guild Wars 2 and Tera Online from NCSoft and Bluehole (also ex-NCSoft guys) respectivly. GW2 had the best MMO Model i've ever experienced, and Tera Online has the best F2P Model i've ever experienced. You're way too pessimistic.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Elija2 on November 23, 2014, 02:12:59 PM
Beyond Earth is an entirely new game though, and there's nothing wrong with advertising it. Most F2P MMOs make playing for free a terrible experience until you start paying for a bunch of stuff.

And technically Guild Wars 2 was developed by an American company, it was only published by a Korean company. Either way, those are only exceptions to the general rule. Do you know how many Korean-developed F2P MMOs are out there? A shitload, and very few of them are even worth talking about, let alone playing.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 23, 2014, 02:36:05 PM
Quote from: Elija2 on November 23, 2014, 02:12:59 PM
Beyond Earth is an entirely new game though, and there's nothing wrong with advertising it. Most F2P MMOs make playing for free a terrible experience until you start paying for a bunch of stuff.

And technically Guild Wars 2 was developed by an American company, it was only published by a Korean company. Either way, those are only exceptions to the general rule. Do you know how many Korean-developed F2P MMOs are out there? A shitload, and very few of them are even worth talking about, let alone playing.

It's arguable wether Beyond Earth truly is a new game or not, but that's another topic.

You could say the same about western F2P Games. Hell, you could say that about anything F2P period.

Korean Games have greatly improved (outside of Nexon, because Nexon) in the last couple years. You're probably just throwing them all in a group, and not actually have played any. Most of the games announced at G-Star in the last two or thee years look way better than any western MMO.

And, also, the studio behind GW2 is owned by NCSoft. They call the shots.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Elija2 on November 23, 2014, 02:41:47 PM
Quote from: Crystal Candy on November 23, 2014, 02:36:05 PM
You could say the same about western F2P Games. Hell, you could say that about anything F2P period.

Maybe I could. The point is that most F2P MMOs suck and the fact that this one is solely targeting the Korean market means that it's probably gonna suck too.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 24, 2014, 04:44:55 AM
Quote from: Elija2 on November 23, 2014, 10:51:31 AM
"Let's bring our successful franchise to a new market (as if Civilization isn't popular in Korea) and change things up."

Also, not sure if this is sarcasm or not, but Civilization games don't get released outside the west.

Quote from: Elija2 on November 23, 2014, 02:41:47 PM
Maybe I could. The point is that most F2P MMOs suck and the fact that this one is solely targeting the Korean market means that it's probably gonna suck too.

Why so pessimisitc?
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Elija2 on November 24, 2014, 10:24:42 AM
Quote from: Crystal Candy on November 24, 2014, 04:44:55 AM
Why so pessimisitc?

Because of all the reasons stated above?
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 24, 2014, 10:29:25 AM
Quote from: Elija2 on November 24, 2014, 10:24:42 AM
Because of all the reasons stated above?

Do you enjoy life?
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Elija2 on November 24, 2014, 10:32:39 AM
Quote from: Crystal Candy on November 24, 2014, 10:29:25 AM
Do you enjoy life?

Yes, but F2P Korean MMOs have no part in that.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Ioshyriku on November 24, 2014, 10:37:20 AM
Why not appreciate the game for what it is?
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Elija2 on November 24, 2014, 10:51:15 AM
Quote from: Ioshyriku on November 24, 2014, 10:37:20 AM
Why not appreciate the game for what it is?

I have no idea what this game is since it's in closed beta and only available in Korea.
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 24, 2014, 10:54:12 AM
Quote from: Elija2 on November 24, 2014, 10:51:15 AM
I have no idea what this game is since it's in closed beta and only available in Korea.

Yeah, but you're not even giving it a little chance, or did these two trailers really look that awful to you?
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: Elija2 on November 24, 2014, 11:00:55 AM
Quote from: Crystal Candy on November 24, 2014, 10:54:12 AM
Yeah, but you're not even giving it a little chance, or did these two trailers really look that awful to you?

All I care about knowing is how bad the microtransactions are. Those videos tell me nothing.

It's a game that none of us will ever get to play anyway, so who cares?
Title: Re: Civilization: Online
Post by: shadowDOESrock on November 24, 2014, 11:15:23 AM
Quote from: Elija2 on November 24, 2014, 11:00:55 AM
All I care about knowing is how bad the microtransactions are. Those videos tell me nothing.

It's a game that none of us will ever get to play anyway, so who cares?

If it's sucessful, it'll probably come over. Korean games tend to come over if they're well recieved. Aside from that one game I really want, ironically.