That's Enough Wii U Negativity From the Lot of You

Started by Hakudamashi, January 20, 2014, 11:47:11 AM

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Hakudamashi

If I have to read yet another blatantly obvious post about how the Wii U isn't doing so well, I swear I'm gonna punch a cat.
So instead, this topic is going to talk about what about the Wii U bothers us, and we think can be done to turn things for the better.

Like first of all the whole downloads thing, they're tied to your hardware, not some sort of cloud service, that is distressing. While unlikely, if something happens to the hardware, I have to re-buy everything, that's bullshit.

Secondly, there's no way to privately message people without being friends with them first. This gets quite annoying when you simply want to send a "GGs" to someone you played with online, or to ask for friend codes of whichever cool person you met

Thirdly, it's region locked, noone likes that shit, and the online store comes with taxes.

Also, I agree with this person


And I swear, I'll punch anyone who mentions "3rd Party Support"
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Quote from: Hakudamashi on January 20, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
And I swear, I'll punch anyone who mentions "3rd Party Support"

But that's totally the main problem.

I guess it would be nice if Nintendo weren't slow as fuck with their Virtual Console releases. It's just insane that the Wii has a massive catalog of VC games but they have to re-port every single one to the Wii U. Plus the Wii U still doesn't have N64 and GBA games. Even the Wii had N64 games within a year of launch. I doubt that would help sales of the Wii U though.

Hakudamashi

Quote from: Elija2 on January 20, 2014, 11:53:02 AM
But that's totally the main problem.

I guess it would be nice if Nintendo weren't slow as fuck with their Virtual Console releases. It's just insane that the Wii has a massive catalog of VC games but they have to re-port every single one to the Wii U. Plus the Wii U still doesn't have N64 and GBA games. Even the Wii had N64 games within a year of launch. I doubt that would help sales of the Wii U though.
3rd Party Support wasn't what saved the 3DS.

I dun see much people buying Wii U for VC... since emulators are soo rampant.
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Quote from: Hakudamashi on January 20, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
3rd Party Support wasn't what saved the 3DS.

I dun see much people buying Wii U for VC... since emulators are soo rampant.

It kinda was. The Western support has always been shit but Japanese devs have given it massive support since handhelds are more popular there.

They need to get games that are not as easily emulated on there like N64 and Arcade games. Again, even the Wii had those.

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Quote from: jkid101094 on January 20, 2014, 04:00:09 PM
If the Wii U had a vagina I'd fuck it.

You're not able to fit your tiny dick into the disc slot?

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I already tried. It thought I was a disc so I spent a really awkward night in the hospital.


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Make a 'silent relaunch' of the system, market it, put games out that people care for, make some god damn deals with third-parties for exclusive games and content, and give iwata the boot.

And add more storage.
Aaand make... so called 'hardcore' games.

What happened to Miyamotos FPS?

Remember Eternal Darkness?
Or Disaster: Day of Crisis?
or... Zelda Twilight Princess, Ocarina of Time, Majoras Mask?
or... Metroid Prime?
or... Star Fox?
or... F-Zero?


jkid101094

Remember that fantastic game for the Wii? You know the one that no one ever talk about anymore even though it was fun and original as all hell? That franchise that all but disappeared off the face of the Earth after it's sequel on the DS?



No, of course you don't, because you think people actually forgot about Ocarina of Time.


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Hakudamashi

Question.
How much control does Iwata have exactly?
Was it his decision to call it the "Wii U"? Or this apparent boycott on anything online? How much does Iwata control exactly?

Cause maybe the only change Nintendo needs right now is for him to step down and get a new President...

Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on January 21, 2014, 08:32:24 AM
Remember Eternal Darkness?
Or Disaster: Day of Crisis?
or... Zelda Twilight Princess, Ocarina of Time, Majoras Mask?
or... Metroid Prime?
or... Star Fox?
or... F-Zero?
Remember Crash Bandicoot?
or Ape Escape?
or Midevil?
or Croc?
or De Blob?
or Banjo Kazooie?
or Samurai Showdown?
or Chrono Cross?

Why do people keep acting like Nintendo is the only one that neglects their franchises?
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Quote from: jkid101094 on January 21, 2014, 11:46:59 PM
No, of course you don't, because you think people actually forgot about Ocarina of Time.

I'm talking about Nintendo letting their franchises die and neglecting hardcore games.
I dont know what you're talking about.
I really don't know what you're talking about. <

People forgot about Ocaria of Time? what even

Quote from: Hakudamashi on January 22, 2014, 04:13:31 AM
Remember Crash Bandicoot?
or Ape Escape?
or Midevil?
or Croc?
or De Blob?
or Banjo Kazooie?
or Samurai Showdown?
or Chrono Cross?

Why do people keep acting like Nintendo is the only one that neglects their franchises?

Because Sony and Microsoft have other first-party franchises that stand in for the loss of the old ones.
Also, most of the titles you mentioned are 3rd party and/or the studio died.

Crash belongs to Activision...
Croc was from the now defunct Fox Interactive...
de blob was from the now defunct THQ
Samurai Showdown... actually, wasnt there one on the Wii?
Chrono Cross is Square Enix...

Midevil studio is sort-of something completely different now. It's a divison of Guerillia Games now. Ya' know, the Killzone guys?

Ape Escape... Well, SCJ has the finish Last Guardian first :P


Quote from: Hakudamashi on January 22, 2014, 04:13:31 AM
Question.
How much control does Iwata have exactly?
Was it his decision to call it the "Wii U"? Or this apparent boycott on anything online? How much does Iwata control exactly?

Cause maybe the only change Nintendo needs right now is for him to step down and get a new President...

He's CEO of both Nintendo itself and Nintendo of America.

I'm pretty sure Reggie knows what's going on.
Infact, I'm pretty sure Iwata knows what's going on as well.
They're probably doing... something.

"Please understand."

jkid101094

Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on January 22, 2014, 04:41:46 AM
I'm talking about Nintendo letting their franchises die and neglecting hardcore games.
I dont know what you're talking about.
I really don't know what you're talking about. <

People forgot about Ocaria of Time? what even
Silly Kyo.
They just remade the game a few years ago. Not only that, but there are constant references to those in the newer games and even then I'm sure Nintendo realizes that those games set a standard that the next games have to live up to.


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Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on January 22, 2014, 04:41:46 AM
Because Sony and Microsoft have other first-party franchises that stand in for the loss of the old ones.
Sony does, Uncharted, GoW, R&C and Sly Cooper, I guess.
Microsoft does Halo and GoW
Nintendo does Mario, Zelda, Fire Emblem, Pokemon, Metroid, Donkey Kong.

Nintendo pays attention to their franchises more than any other.
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Quote from: jkid101094 on January 22, 2014, 05:18:27 AM
Silly Kyo.
They just remade the game a few years ago. Not only that, but there are constant references to those in the newer games and even then I'm sure Nintendo realizes that those games set a standard that the next games have to live up to.

My point is that...
What were the most successful Zelda titles and the most popular as well as demanded ones?
That's right, the darker ones.

So, why would (Iwata) re-release Wind Waker - the worst selling console Zelda - expecting it to majorly boost Wii U sales?
And then they pumped money into a Dynasty Warriors Zelda spin-off...
While cool, Dynasty Warriors is not a console seller, nor a huge seller in the first place.
Not only that, but the last one one Wii U - Warriors Orochi 3 - performed horribly. So, why?

I dont know. Ask Iwata.

I like Wind Waker and the idea of that spin-off, but on a business level it makes... no sense. at all.

It's things like that

Quote from: Hakudamashi on January 22, 2014, 05:40:48 AM
Sony does, Uncharted, GoW, R&C and Sly Cooper, I guess.
Microsoft does Halo and GoW
Nintendo does Mario, Zelda, Fire Emblem, Pokemon, Metroid, Donkey Kong.

Nintendo pays attention to their franchises more than any other.

Sony has alot of other first-party titles that are box office hits.
Microsoft has Fable, Forza, Dead Rising and much more.

Nintendo has (On Wii U)... Mario. And a Donkey Kong.
On top of all that... Look at all that third-party support.

Look at all these people buying a Wii U to get Mario 3D World together with Final Fantas- oh.

jkid101094

Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on January 22, 2014, 05:47:31 AM
Dead Rising and much more.
Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on January 22, 2014, 05:47:31 AM
Dead Rising


I could have swore it was on the Dreamcast too but apparently it debuted on the 360 which just astounds me.


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