This Cover, Holy Shit

[jkid101094]

I'd post the original but if you say you've never heard it you're full of shit.
Post Merge: October 29, 2014, 07:42:11 PM


I can't NOT bob my head to this one. WHERE HASVE THESE COVERS BEEN ALL MY LIFE!?

[Elija2]

There's a limit to how good you can make a cover of a shitty song and this probably hits that limit.

[jkid101094]

You're a shitty song.

[Hakudamashi]

There's a limit to how good you can make a cover of a shitty song and this probably hits that limit.

You're doing this on purpose.

[Elija2]

You're doing this on purpose.

Obviously not because I have no idea what I'm apparently doing.

[Hakudamashi]

How can you think "My Heart Will Go On" is a shitty song?

[Elija2]

Because I don't like it.

[Hakudamashi]

Sure
But it's not like it's poorly composed
Or the vocals are terrible

Calling it shit is pretty harsh.

[Elija2]

Sure
But it's not like it's poorly composed
Or the vocals are terrible

Calling it shit is pretty harsh.

You could say that about most songs out there. It doesn't matter if a song is well produced if everything else about it sucks.

[jkid101094]

There Eli goes trying to pass off his opinion as fact again.

[Elija2]

There Eli goes trying to pass off his opinion as fact again.

Yeah, we get it. Nothing is objectifiable so nothing can ever be bad.

[jkid101094]

Yeah, we get it. Nothing is objectifiable so nothing can ever be bad.

Except your opinions because all of them are shit.

[Elija2]

Except your opinions because all of them are shit.

Wow, way to pass off your opinion as fact. This is why people think you're annoying.

[jkid101094]

That's because it was a fact.

[Elija2]

Nothing is factual, everything is subjective.

[shadowDOESrock]

Both these covers are bit too simple...
Although I actually really dug the second one.

Thank You Teachers version sounded a bit amateurish.

Nothing is factual, everything is subjective.

Earth's average gravity is 9.78 m/s². Fact.

[Hakudamashi]

Lukas has a penis.

[jkid101094]

Nothing is factual, everything is subjective.

Heads up, Eli.
Anything that can be debated is not a fact.

[Elija2]

Heads up, Eli.
Anything that can be debated is not a fact.

Heads up, jkid. I'm not dumb.

I'm playing around with the fact that you think nothing can be objectively bad.

[jkid101094]

Because the concept of something being good or bad is based on opinion in the first place.

Someone could say Hitler was a good guy and no matter how far you delve into the statement you will never find a fact.

[Elija2]

Because the concept of something being good or bad is based on opinion in the first place.

Someone could say Hitler was a good guy and no matter how far you delve into the statement you will never find a fact.

Maybe if you live in a bubble.

Hitler orchestrated the genocide of millions of Jews. This is a fact and it is widely considered to be a bad thing. There are no compelling arguments that can argue against this. You still think that Hitler was not an objectively bad person.

[shadowDOESrock]

considered

[Elija2]

Yes, people think Hitler is bad.

[shadowDOESrock]

Yes, people think Hitler is bad.

Not everyone.

[Elija2]

Not everyone.

Those people are wrong.

[jkid101094]

Hitler orchestrated the genocide of millions of Jews. This is a fact and it is widely considered to be a bad thing.

Once again, this is not a fact. Facts are indisputable, this is an opinion. The majority agreeing does not change a thing.

If I say, "This grain of rice is small." the majority would probably agree, but that doesn't change the fact that adjectives are subjective by nature. Whether it's comparatively or just via a person to person basis what constitutes as, "small" is something that fluctuates.

There are no compelling arguments that can argue against this.

What exactly makes an argument compelling, then? Why is that the difference between right and wrong?
Something I've learned is that there is no black and white; there are only shades of grey. While someone could argue that anything is closer to either black or white, that doesn't change the fact that it isn't.

I will agree that Hitler did some pretty bad shit. I'm not a Nazi sympathizer in the least, but that doesn't change the fact that he most likely thought what he was doing was right and that his opinion on his actions are just as valid as yours.

[Elija2]

If I say, "This grain of rice is small." the majority would probably agree, but that doesn't change the fact that adjectives are subjective by nature. Whether it's comparatively or just via a person to person basis what constitutes as, "small" is something that fluctuates.

Okay, now you're just being pedantic.

[jkid101094]

Okay, now you're just being pedantic.

No, I'm just trying to explain my point.

[Elija2]

Once again, this is not a fact. Facts are indisputable, this is an opinion. The majority agreeing does not change a thing.

Using your logic nothing is indisputable. Is the sky blue? How do we know our eyes aren't playing tricks on us? What if my blue is different from your blue?

I will agree that Hitler did some pretty bad shit. I'm not a Nazi sympathizer in the least, but that doesn't change the fact that he most likely thought what he was doing was right and that his opinion on his actions are just as valid as yours.

Him thinking that his actions were right doesn't change the fact that they weren't.

[jkid101094]

Using your logic nothing is indisputable. Is the sky blue? How do we know our eyes aren't playing tricks on us? What if my blue is different from your blue?

Those examples have nothing to do with what I said. Even if my blue was different from yours we could still identify it as blue.

Him thinking that his actions were right doesn't change the fact that they weren't.

And who are you to say what's right and wrong?
That's the point I'm making. Right, Wrong, Good and Bad are all objectionable. I could believe sacrificing goats to Cthulhu to be the right thing to do and my opinion would be just as correct as anyone else'.

[Elija2]

All I'm gonna say is that you should stop using the "all opinions are subjective" card every time someone says something because it makes you look like a smartass (which is an objectively bad thing).

[Hakudamashi]

He wouldn't have to if you made it clear you're stating an opinion, not a fact.

[jkid101094]

Ya know it's really annoying to have to explain something that my 7-year old sister realizes to a grown man, only to have him ignore every word of it.

All I'm gonna say is that you should stop using the "all opinions are subjective" card every time someone says something because it makes you look like a smartass (which is an objectively bad thing).

I will not because I know damn well that I'm right in my line of thinking, whether you understand me or not. You have every right to your opinion, but you have no right to present it as a fact.

[Elija2]

I will not because I know damn well that I'm right in my line of thinking, whether you understand me or not. You have every right to your opinion, but you have no right to present it as a fact.

How was I presenting it as fact? Does every time someone say "Oh, this thing sucks" you lash out at them for not clarifying that they were only speaking their opinion?

[jkid101094]

How was I presenting it as fact? Does every time someone say "Oh, this thing sucks" you lash out at them for not clarifying that they were only speaking their opinion?

Yes I do. There are a lot of people in this world that think their opinions are the way of the world and considering that this is the internet it's impossible to tell what's serious and what isn't.

If you would give some obvious sign that your intent wasn't to be a narcissistic douchebag then maybe you wouldn't start arguments with almost every post you make.

[Elija2]

If you would give some obvious sign that your intent wasn't to be a narcissistic douchebag then maybe you wouldn't start arguments with almost every post you make.

Was there an obvious sign that my intent was to be a narcissistic douchebag? Because all I said was that a song is shitty. If that's enough to make me a narcissistic douchebag then I think we're all a member of that club.

[Hakudamashi]

"Oh, this thing sucks"

Why can't he say "I didn't like this"?

[Elija2]

Why can't he say "I didn't like this"?

Because that's the language he likes to use.

[jkid101094]

If you speak in the language of an asshole expect to be treated like one.

[Elija2]

If you speak in the language of an asshole expect to be treated like one.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

[Hakudamashi]

Because that's the language he likes to use.

Then he should be aware of the implications, and be prepared to explain when asked.

[Elija2]

Then he should be aware of the implications, and be prepared to explain when asked.

Only an idiot would think that he wasn't just stating an opinion.

[Hakudamashi]

Assuming there aren't many idiots in the world...

[Elija2]

Assuming there aren't many idiots in the world...

Well, there's certainly one amongst us.

[jkid101094]

Yeah...wonder who that could be...

[Elija2]

It's you, jkid. I was talking about you. IN MY OPINION you're an idiot.

[jkid101094]

Thought so. Fortunately I can say the same exact thing about you.

[Hakudamashi]

It's you, jkid. I was talking about you. IN MY OPINION you're an idiot.

Progress.

[jkid101094]

My mommy says I'm smart so HA.

[Elija2]

That's just her opinion though.

[jkid101094]

My mommy is smart though,

[Elija2]

She can't be objectively smart though.

[jkid101094]

Yeah, well I'm a Goddess so...

[Elija2]

That is not a factual statement.