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Elija2

Is it really a valid excuse to make a game filled with senseless homophobia/transphobia just to piss people off? What point is there to make by doing that?

Hakudamashi

To show that people are easily offended and forget that they are responsible adults who can simply not buy the game and move on to other things.
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Elija2

Would you really call someone "easily offended" for being disgusted by that game?

And media with offensive content can have a harmful impact on society, whether they're meant to be a joke or not.

Hakudamashi

Quote from: Elija2 on May 04, 2015, 10:56:22 AM
Would you really call someone "easily offended" for being disgusted by that game?
Disgusted and offended are not the same thing.

Quote from: Elija2 on May 04, 2015, 10:56:22 AM
And media with offensive content can have a harmful impact on society, whether they're meant to be a joke or not.
What's offensive to you may not be offensive to someone else.
Offensive content isn't the problem here, it's responsibility.
In my opinion anyway.
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Elija2

Quote from: Hakudamashi on May 04, 2015, 10:59:07 AM
Disgusted and offended are not the same thing.

Either way, what's wrong with being offended by that game?

Quote from: Hakudamashi on May 04, 2015, 10:59:07 AM
What's offensive to you may not be offensive to someone else.
Offensive content isn't the problem here, it's responsibility.
In my opinion anyway.

That's not the point.

The point is that gay and trans people are already discriminated against by a large percentage of the world. How would you feel if you lived in a world where the majority of people hated you for your sexual identity, and where many people actually assault and sometimes kill people just for being gay or trans? And then you have stuff like this that just reinforce those hateful ideas and make the lives of gay and trans people that much harder. Why shouldn't we discourage this kind of stuff from ever being made?

Hakudamashi

Quote from: Elija2 on May 04, 2015, 11:31:27 AM
Either way, what's wrong with being offended by that game?
Other than being dumb?

Quote from: Elija2 on May 04, 2015, 11:31:27 AM
That's not the point.

The point is that gay and trans people are already discriminated against by a large percentage of the world. How would you feel if you lived in a world where the majority of people hated you for your sexual identity, and where many people actually assault and sometimes kill people just for being gay or trans? And then you have stuff like this that just reinforce those hateful ideas and make the lives of gay and trans people that much harder. Why shouldn't we discourage this kind of stuff from ever being made?
I'll answer this question, with another question.
If you were a paedophile, how would you feel about loli porn being banned in your region?
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Elija2

Quote from: Hakudamashi on May 04, 2015, 11:37:44 AM
Other than being dumb?

You think it's dumb to be offended by that game?

Quote from: Hakudamashi on May 04, 2015, 11:37:44 AM
I'll answer this question, with another question.
If you were a paedophile, how would you feel about loli porn being banned in your region?

I dunno, I'd be upset I guess? What's your point? The two situations aren't comparable.

Hakudamashi

Quote from: Elija2 on May 04, 2015, 11:47:58 AM
You think it's dumb to be offended by that game?
I do.

Quote from: Elija2 on May 04, 2015, 11:47:58 AM
I dunno, I'd be upset I guess? What's your point? The two situations aren't comparable.
I say they are.

But if we can't see eye to eye on this I guess we're done here.
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Elija2

Quote from: Hakudamashi on May 04, 2015, 11:53:55 AM
I do.

You think it's dumb to be offended by a game where your only objective is to murder gay and trans people?

Would you call a gay or trans person dumb for being offended by that game?

Quote from: Hakudamashi on May 04, 2015, 11:53:55 AM
I say they are.

But if we can't see eye to eye on this I guess we're done here.

Or you could make your case as to why you think they're comparable.

Hakudamashi

Quote from: Elija2 on May 04, 2015, 12:15:03 PM
You think it's dumb to be offended by a game where your only objective is to murder gay and trans people?

Would you call a gay or trans person dumb for being offended by that game?
Similar to how I call black people dumb for still being offended by the word nigger, yes.

Quote from: Elija2 on May 04, 2015, 12:15:03 PM
Or you could make your case as to why you think they're comparable.
I'd rather just answer your 2 questions bluntly.

Quote from: Elija2 on May 04, 2015, 11:31:27 AM
How would you feel if you lived in a world where the majority of people hated you for your sexual identity, and where many people actually assault and sometimes kill people just for being gay or trans?
Assuming I have the same friends and family I do, I wouldn't care.

Quote from: Elija2 on May 04, 2015, 11:31:27 AM
Why shouldn't we discourage this kind of stuff from ever being made?
Cause it's kind of a waste of energy.
You could be doing more productive things, like wearing a hat.
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Elija2

Quote from: Hakudamashi on May 04, 2015, 12:28:04 PM
Similar to how I call black people dumb for still being offended by the word nigger, yes.

Do you ever stop to think why a black person might be offended by the word nigger and perhaps try to understand them even if you yourself don't find it offensive?

Quote from: Hakudamashi on May 04, 2015, 12:28:04 PM
Assuming I have the same friends and family I do, I wouldn't care.

Somehow I doubt that. At least 30% of LGBT people attempt suicide, compared to less than one percent of non-LGBT people. And often the reason for this is because their friends and family aren't supportive of them.

Quote from: Hakudamashi on May 04, 2015, 12:28:04 PM
Cause it's kind of a waste of energy.
You could be doing more productive things, like wearing a hat.

With this kind of logic we'd never get anything done because there will always be something else we could be doing that is more productive.

Hakudamashi

Quote from: Elija2 on May 04, 2015, 12:46:10 PM
Do you ever stop to think why a black person might be offended by the word nigger and perhaps try to understand them even if you yourself don't find it offensive?
I do.
I understand
I still think it's dumb.
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Elija2

Quote from: Hakudamashi on May 04, 2015, 12:52:04 PM
I do.
I understand
I still think it's dumb.

How can you call someone dumb for being offended by a word that is often used as a slur against their race?

Hakudamashi

Because unless you're a child, or the person is your boss, why are you letting some stranger make your life worse?
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Elija2

They're not letting someone make their life worse because they have no control over whether the use of those words hurt them or not.