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Title: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: TheGameNinja on September 30, 2011, 09:31:48 AM
I'd like to have an actual discussion about this. Not a flame war. Not an argument. A discussion.

I want to know why you like or dislike the show. Why you like or dislike the community. What is it you like or dislike the most about either? If you hate everything about it, why? If you love everything about it, why? Do you only like it because its popular right now? Do you only hate it because the fans seem to be insane? I want to know any and all thoughts you have on My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.


Please do not use this topic to spew hate. If you really want to do that, start another topic.

Do not post any macro images, PMVs, etc. without a reason. There's already pony spam topics for that. Go ahead and post one if you've got a point to make or you want to give an example of something, but use restraint. This is supposed to be a conversation.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: jkid101094 on September 30, 2011, 09:35:23 AM
I'm pretty much indifferent on the show. I've watched the first three episodes and I kind want to watch the fourth but it's not a big deal for me. I don't look at pony porn, I don't post the macros, I don't have a favorite pony. The show is just "meh" to me. I have no reasons to like or hate it other than the subject matter.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: TheGameNinja on September 30, 2011, 10:27:46 AM
I myself like the show for a few different reasons. One is that the animation is so impressive for Flash, especially considering the art style. It would have been easy for them to go the lazy Johnny Test route, but they really put a lot of care and effort into making it look good. Another is that the voice acting is very well done... for the most part. Twilight's lines sound a little forced when she's being overly sappy. And the background ponies haven't had very good voices, but the main cast has been great most of the time. The singers do a fantastic job as well. I like all of the music in the show. The stories are simplistic and fairly predictable, but they're fun to watch. I like animation in general and FiM is definitely one of the only good new cartoons airing right now.

As for the community, there are things I love and hate about it. I love how it started. I love how everyone knows how ridiculous it is that they like this thing. I love that most people seem to actually like it and aren't just on the bandwagon because its popular. I hate that there are some bronies (a small yet vocal amount as far as I can tell) that take it way to seriously and actually get mad at people for not liking it. I don't like that people equate being a brony to both a furry and gay. There are certainly bronies that are furries or gay, but not all of us. And there are plenty of us that steer as clear as they can from rule 34 stuff. Heck, I don't even read fanfic.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: billyhatcher312 on September 30, 2011, 11:00:46 AM
hey TGN when did u sart to like My Little Pony?
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: TheGameNinja on September 30, 2011, 11:08:04 AM
I think it was sometime in June. And its specifically Friendship is Magic that I like, none of the older shows. There are some bronies that like the old stuff, but you don't need to like the old stuff to be a brony.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: shadowDOESrock on September 30, 2011, 11:49:28 AM
The show isnt bad.
But the community is.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: dreamcasthime on September 30, 2011, 11:56:49 AM
I like it.....cause it's just plain awesome
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: Supersonic196 on September 30, 2011, 12:08:31 PM
I'm completely indifferent on the show, I watched two episodes, became slightly confused as to why I was watching it, and settled on the conclusion that my sister would love it. I have no problem with the show.

What I cannot stand are the "bronies", constantly making references to the show in places where references shouldn't be made, taking the show WAY too seriously, whining to your face if you don't like the show, pretending there's some sort of deep philosophical meaning to the show that the likes of which us mere mortals "wouldn't get"
They're even worse IRL.

Do I hate ponies? No. In fact It's a fantastic show,
perhaps I would've enjoyed it more if I hadn't finished watching the entire Death Note series a day before.

But the community seem to either be really good trolls, or have some sort of cult running in the background.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: TheGameNinja on September 30, 2011, 12:09:11 PM
Quote from: {The Lovely Kyo}~ on September 30, 2011, 11:49:28 AM
The show isnt bad.
But the community is.


Care to explain a bit? That's what this topic's for. :P

Quote from: supersonic196 on September 30, 2011, 12:08:31 PM
I'm completely indifferent on the show, I watched two episodes, became slightly confused as to why I was watching it, and settled on the conclusion that my sister would love it. I have no problem with the show.

What I cannot stand are the "bronies", constantly making references to the show in places where references shouldn't be made, taking the show WAY too seriously, whining to your face if you don't like the show, pretending there's some sort of deep philosophical meaning to the show that the likes of which us mere mortals "wouldn't get"
They're even worse IRL.

I get that a lot and I honestly don't see as much of it as others apparently do. :/ Like I said, a small but very vocal part of the community.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: shadowDOESrock on September 30, 2011, 01:04:07 PM
Quote from: TheGameNinja on September 30, 2011, 12:09:11 PM
Care to explain a bit? That's what this topic's for. :P

I get that a lot and I honestly don't see as much of it as others apparently do. :/ Like I said, a small but very vocal part of the community.

A Small Part?
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: TheGameNinja on September 30, 2011, 01:10:06 PM
From what I've seen, yes. Out of all bronies, that is. Just because they make up a small part of the fanbase doesn't mean there aren't way too many of them.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: nazo unleashed on September 30, 2011, 01:33:28 PM
Yes, i do like my little pony, not because it popular, or because of it's art style, but because of it's humor, i know, it's REALLY cheesey, but i'm a cheesey person. And i really don't understand as to why people dislike it. i mean you can dislike it, but to a certain extent, there are some people who are like "you should be killed for liking this show" or "Are you an 8 year old girl? No? then it's creepy." It's okay to dislike the show, but to tell somebody that they can't or shouldn't watch it is too much. it's like telling somebody who is per-say "Homosexual" that they can't be a "Homosexual" because it's "creepy" or "wrong". It's just some people that like the show and make the rest of the bronies seem "Creepy" for what they do. In my Opinion, there are two types of bronies, the /b/ronies, the creepy ones who make the rest of us seem weird, and spread it around like a cult, and hate other's because they aren't a brony, and then there are the bronies, the sane one who just watch the show and like to talk about it to an extent.

I would classify myself as a brony, i don't treat it as if it's some kind of cult.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: shadowDOESrock on September 30, 2011, 01:37:35 PM
Quote from: TheGameNinja on September 30, 2011, 01:10:06 PM
From what I've seen, yes. Out of all bronies, that is. Just because they make up a small part of the fanbase doesn't mean there aren't way too many of them.

considering what i've seen here, youtube and in real life...

...its more like the sane people are the small part.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: TheGameNinja on September 30, 2011, 01:49:26 PM
I have a feeling that the people that are like that aren't really fans. They're just into it because its popular and they'll be off the bandwagon within a year.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: nazo unleashed on September 30, 2011, 02:00:03 PM
Quote from: TheGameNinja on September 30, 2011, 01:49:26 PM
I have a feeling that the people that are like that aren't really fans. They're just into it because its popular and they'll be off the bandwagon within a year.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: Tanassy on September 30, 2011, 08:00:46 PM
Quote from: {The Lovely Kyo}~ on September 30, 2011, 11:49:28 AM
The show isnt bad.
But the community is.
I agree with this, to an extent.

Quote from: NazoUN on September 30, 2011, 02:00:03 PM

That happens all the time. With like, everything.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: ~Bubblicious~ on September 30, 2011, 10:25:21 PM
I honestly like watching the show, its just something about the art style and how everything is portrayed that really catches me eye and holds my attention. However, when people OBSESS over something, it kills it for me. That's what killed Soul Eater for me. I watched the episodes in all Japanese as soon as I could, and then I started watching it again when English subs, etc. , came out. Then all of a sudden- BAM! Soul Eater is popular as all hell and there's idiots acting like they've been a fan of it for forever. People doing that stupid stuff killed it for me. Black Butler, even, is really shooting up in popularity and just like Harry Potter- my love for it hasn't diminished. However, the blatant shows of Pony-Love or Pony-Hate I've been seeing is honestly killing MLP for me. I still watch it here and there, why? 'Cuz I like it. Otherwise? I prefer to just sit back and relax on MC or whatever other game rather than watch MLP.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: Dracoslythe on October 01, 2011, 06:02:30 AM
Oooh yay.  I get to go back to when I was a wee little girl now.  :3

Yes.  I love the show.
Why?  Pretty much for the same reasons that Derek likes it.  The animation is fantastic, the VA's for the most part are great, I love the music from it, I LOVE the humor (I spotted quite a few references from other [older/for adults] things in S1) and overall it's just a cute little show to watch and it's actually enjoyable, unlike 95% of cartoons on television today.
But then again, I've been a MLP fan for quite a long time.
I have a bunch of G2 and G3 stuff still; I had to get rid of some of it (they went to my aunt...she's got a closet full of...G3 toys, I believe?  xD) when I got FiM merch.  xD
Been teased about liking ponies since middle school, so jumping into FiM wasn't really a huge deal for me.
I learned about FiM back in like...March or April, but never had a chance to sit down and watch it until early June.
Yes, I make references, mention it quite a bit and have a bunch of macros (I have to say though...Derek has a HELL of a lot more pony pics than I do xDD), but I do that with several other things too.

The community...I love and hate it.
I love that mere minutes after something is revealed, there's already jokes about it (i.e. Discord Shuffling, the Rainbow Dash memes [although those kinda get boring quick], etc.).  It's also things like this that make me shake my head, but can't help but to love this fandom (kinda like I do with Jkid.  :3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYX1HzRiIpM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYX1HzRiIpM&feature=related)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VVIZc6L3rc&list=UUGiAwEj-NYDKHyJambHqhlg&feature=plcp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egl076EHmFU&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxGWkon7WdQ
Then again, I love these kinds of videos.  There's also the AMAZING fan compositions (Super Ponybeat, for example). and even the cute little stuff (Such as the Bridesmaids parody [that was an official billboard if I'm not mistaken, but there was some fan works of the mane 6 as humans]).

On the flipside, there are the fans that make even me shake my head and go "why...?"  Such as...the ones who treat the show like a goddamn bible.  It's a show, for Christ's sake.
And then, even though you all know I do enjoy a good Rule 34, I don't like looking at Pony R34.  Most of it is just sickening, and the first thing that comes to my mind is "why would you do that!?"  And then there's those who jump up and down if you don't worship Celestia as a god or something.  Or if you don't like the same characters they do, they get all pissed off.
^small percentage of bronies, thank god, but they are very vocal, like Derek said.  And because there are so many bronies, there's quite a few of them laying around.
And then there's those who are just on it for the bandwagon ride, and will jump off as soon as something more interesting comes.  -_-;
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: TheGameNinja on October 01, 2011, 06:25:39 AM
The Bridlemaids billboard was official. In fact, they're about to put up a new one for season two. The episode set to air on the 22nd is a Halloween episode by the way. :3

(http://puu.sh/6mUq)

And that brings up another thing: just how awesome Hasbro and everyone else involved with the show has been about this whole thing. Cartoons have been cancelled because they were attracting unexpected audiences. Both Megas XLR and Invader Zim were cancelled because the networks didn't like that they were attracting an older demographic. Hasbro could have pulled the plug on the whole thing when they found out about the fandom's internet presence but they didn't. They embraced it! They made ads like the Bridlemaids billboard and the Equestria Gurls video. They don't have fanvideos or even the episodes themselves pulled from YouTube. Though I'm not sure everyone in charge quite understands it. XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPqjKk_xCo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPqjKk_xCo)
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: Dracoslythe on October 01, 2011, 06:27:42 AM
Quote from: TheGameNinja on October 01, 2011, 06:25:39 AM
The Bridlemaids billboard was official. In fact, they're about to put up a new one for season two. The episode set to air on the 22nd is a Halloween episode by the way. :3

(http://puu.sh/6mUq)

And that brings up another thing: just how awesome Hasbro and everyone else involved with the show has been about this whole thing. Cartoons have been cancelled because they were attracting unexpected audiences. Both Megas XLR and Invader Zim were cancelled because the networks didn't like that they were attracting an older demographic. Hasbro could have pulled the plug on the whole thing when they found out about the fandom's internet presence but they didn't. They embraced it! They made ads like the Bridlemaids billboard and the Equestria Gurls video. They don't have fanvideos or even the episodes themselves pulled from YouTube. Though I'm not sure everyone in charge quite understands it. XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPqjKk_xCo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPqjKk_xCo)
Poltergeist.  xD
/excited nowww

But yeah, I really like how those involved in the show are actually PUSHING it more towards the older demographic of fans (once they found out about us, at least xD)
It's like they aren't even pushing it towards the target demographic anymore xD
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: TheGameNinja on October 01, 2011, 06:35:53 AM
Oh, they do still push it towards the target demo. Ever been to the Pony section toy aisle? A lot of the toys are still in the style of previous generations of the franchise. Much more, without having a better word for it, "girly." And then there's the talking baby Pinkie Pie thing... They could at least use Sweetie Belle or some other younger pony for those kinds of toys. =3= Some of the better ones are the gift set that came with the ones with molded, non-brushable hair and the blind bags. The standard $5 brushables look okay though.
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: Dracoslythe on October 01, 2011, 06:37:39 AM
Quote from: TheGameNinja on October 01, 2011, 06:35:53 AM
Oh, they do still push it towards the target demo. Ever been to the Pony section toy aisle? A lot of the toys are still in the style of previous generations of the franchise. Much more, without having a better word for it, "girly." And then there's the talking baby Pinkie Pie thing... They could at least use Sweetie Belle or some other younger pony for those kinds of toys. =3=
Yes I've been down the toy isle. x3
lol I agree.  I think Apple Blossom would have made a cute baby toy.  =3=
Title: Re: A calm, controlled discussion of the brony phenomenon.
Post by: TheGameNinja on October 06, 2011, 08:14:36 AM
Here's a good article to read:

http://life.icrontic.com/article/why-grown-ass-men-love-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-so-much/ (http://life.icrontic.com/article/why-grown-ass-men-love-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-so-much/)