Gonna be a hell of a day tomorrow...

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Snooky

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Quote from: TheGameNinja on April 26, 2010, 10:04:10 AM
Okay, how about this. Weed is illegal. Despite any moral stance on the issue, weed is illegal to buy, sell, or use outside of medicinal purposes, and even then it is monitored. A figure might just sit there, but it looks cool and it isn't illegal. And what is weed going to do to "aid" you or get anything done?
For one thing, I clearly don't care that it's illegal. Furthermore, there are plenty of places where it is, in fact, perfectly legal to grow, buy, sell, and possess.
Second, if can aid me and help me get shit done by relaxing me after a work-out, helping me get to sleep, giving me inspiration for games and other such things (protip: a lot of Sonic Adventure 3 was programmed when stoned, including the badass slope engine), and helping someone say, eat a lot of food if they're on ritalin or some shit. Ritalin really sucks. :(

And DarkFusion: Not every disagreement is a forum war. Can't we share our views with people who disagree? I mean jesus, isn't that an important part of communication?

Elija2

Quote from: TheGameNinja on April 26, 2010, 10:04:10 AM
Okay, how about this. Weed is illegal. Despite any moral stance on the issue, weed is illegal to buy, sell, or use outside of medicinal purposes, and even then it is monitored. A figure might just sit there, but it looks cool and it isn't illegal. And what is weed going to do to "aid" you or get anything done?

You know what else is illegal? Pirating and sharing pirated games.
Welcome to Sonic Zone.

TheGameNinja

Quote from: Elija2 on April 26, 2010, 12:11:52 PM
You know what else is illegal? Pirating and sharing pirated games.
Welcome to Sonic Zone.
If a cop sees me downloading Sonic R and a guy smoling a joint at the same time, which one of us is going to end up in cuffs?

Snooky

Quote from: TheGameNinja on April 26, 2010, 12:33:38 PM
If a cop sees me downloading Sonic R and a guy smoling a joint at the same time, which one of us is going to end up in cuffs?
Both of you.

And I think you missed something:
QuoteFor one thing, I clearly don't care that it's illegal. Furthermore, there are plenty of places where it is, in fact, perfectly legal to grow, buy, sell, and possess.
Renders your point just a tad irrelevant. There are certain counties in California, for instance, where you can legally own up to 8 ounces of pot. If I were to move there, you would have no argument whatsoever.

TranceRaver83

Quote from: TheGameNinja on April 26, 2010, 12:33:38 PM
If a cop sees me downloading Sonic R and a guy smoling a joint at the same time, which one of us is going to end up in cuffs?
You.  Pot is decriminalized in Colorado.

TheGameNinja

*sigh*
I don't want to become the forum's D.A.R.E. officer. Drugs mess with your brain. You shouldn't do them if you value your mind, but I can't force you not to. If it isn't illegal where you are, then obviously I have no footing. I'm speaking as someone who lives where it is illegal. Regardless, I'm not about to do drugs. Or drink more than a glass of wine, for that matter. Why? Because I want to know how Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, and a ton of other stuff ends and if drugs or alcohol ends up killing me first, I'll kick myself in the grave. It's a stupid reason, but it's more than enough for me.

Snooky

Quote from: TheGameNinja on April 26, 2010, 01:04:29 PM
*sigh*
I don't want to become the forum's D.A.R.E. officer. Drugs mess with your brain. You shouldn't do them if you value your mind, but I can't force you not to. If it isn't illegal where you are, then obviously I have to footing. I'm speaking as someone who lives where it is illegal. Regardless, I'm not about to do drugs. Or drink more than a glass of wine, for that matter. Why? Because I want to know how Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, and a ton of other stuff ends and if drugs or alcohol ends up killing me first, I'll kick myself in the grave. It's a stupid reason, but it's more than enough for me.
1. Pot does not and cannot kill you, and is not a drug
2. Wine contains alcohol, which is a drug
3. Drugs don't even mess with your brain all that bad. I have a teacher who used to be a meth addict, and she is a well-functioning member of society (editor's note: I hate society, but anyway...)

Seriously, at least do some research before you try to diss something. Pot doesn't mess with your mind that much at all. The only effect it has on your brain, or really, your body in general, is that it causes your brain to release more dopamine than it does normally, which is what makes you high.

TranceRaver83

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Quote from: TheGameNinja on April 26, 2010, 01:04:29 PM
*sigh*
I don't want to become the forum's D.A.R.E. officer. Drugs mess with your brain. You shouldn't do them if you value your mind, but I can't force you not to. If it isn't illegal where you are, then obviously I have no footing. I'm speaking as someone who lives where it is illegal. Regardless, I'm not about to do drugs. Or drink more than a glass of wine, for that matter. Why? Because I want to know how Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, and a ton of other stuff ends and if drugs or alcohol ends up killing me first, I'll kick myself in the grave. It's a stupid reason, but it's more than enough for me.
30 years of research have shown that Marijuana is almost completely harmless.  You have a better chance of OD'ing on caffeine than pot. And what do you mean you wanna know what happens in Haruhi Suzumiya, and drugs will make you forget?  I HAD to be stoned to get past the Endless Eight episodes @_@.

TheGameNinja

I didn't say that alcohol wasn't a drug. I didn't say drugs would kill you. I didn't say that all drugs were instant and total killers. All I said, and this is true, that drugs affect your mind and I don't want to screw with my brain. Despite however little they mess with your head, they DO mess with your head. I'm not saying that caffeine is any better. And why is weed not a drug? Just because it isn't a pill?

TranceRaver83

Quote from: TheGameNinja on April 26, 2010, 01:40:39 PM
I didn't say that alcohol wasn't a drug. I didn't say drugs would kill you. I didn't say that all drugs were instant and total killers. All I said, and this is true, that drugs affect your mind and I don't want to screw with my brain. Despite however little they mess with your head, they DO mess with your head. I'm not saying that caffeine is any better. And why is weed not a drug? Just because it isn't a pill?
Because cannabis is a herb, not a drug.  Drugs are chemicals.

TheGameNinja

Quote from: TranceRaver83 on April 26, 2010, 01:59:58 PM
Because cannabis is a herb, not a drug.  Drugs are chemicals.
So caffeine isn't a drug, then? You find that in beans and fruits.

Snooky

Quote from: TheGameNinja on April 26, 2010, 02:17:03 PM
So caffeine isn't a drug, then? You find that in beans and fruits.
Cocaine and heroin are made from plants. The difference between them and weed is that they are both heavily altered before they reach the consumer. Weed is not. Neither are salvia and shrooms, which aren't really drugs either.
And please, stop flat-out ignoring my points. I explained to you that weed does not mess with your head in any bad or permanent way.

TheGameNinja

Quote from: Snooky on April 26, 2010, 02:44:12 PM
Cocaine and heroin are made from plants. The difference between them and weed is that they are both heavily altered before they reach the consumer. Weed is not. Neither are salvia and shrooms, which aren't really drugs either.
And please, stop flat-out ignoring my points. I explained to you that weed does not mess with your head in any bad or permanent way.
Okay, I'm done arguing about this. The only thing I have left to say is this: you kids are too young to be doing that crap regardless. Any research that has been done on the effect of weed on the mind was done on adults, not children.

Snooky

Quote from: TheGameNinja on April 27, 2010, 07:35:11 AM
Okay, I'm done arguing about this. The only thing I have left to say is this: you kids are too young to be doing that crap regardless. Any research that has been done on the effect of weed on the mind was done on adults, not children.
Actually, they use mice and monkeys.

TheGameNinja

Quote from: Snooky on April 27, 2010, 09:14:52 AM
Actually, they use mice and monkeys.
Hmm. I bet those were some... interesting experiments. XD