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GENERAL => Video Games => Topic started by: shadowDOESrock on April 07, 2010, 10:34:31 AM

Poll
Question: Graphics or Gameplay
Option 1: Graphics
Option 2: Gameplay
Option 3: Both
Title: Why Graphics....
Post by: shadowDOESrock on April 07, 2010, 10:34:31 AM
This is something i jumped acros while searching for a fun fighting game......
Tekken is not my thing.
I sold Virtua Fighter.
I Have Soul Calibur 2
Sold DOA4
had the DBZ BT3 and Burst Limit.

---Technically, you can skip untill you get accros a line again---

So i thought, why not take look at the Naruto Games.

I Found 3 Current Gen Games The Wii's one is just there for Fan-service, so that one doesnt count.

I saw 'Ultimate Ninja Storm' for PS3 and 'The Broken Bond' for 360.
I buyed TBB and rented UNS (since it was a friends PS3, he was in holiday so i could have it over the Summer 8D)

And after playing that...going back to YouTube...looking at a few other games.......


HOW CAN PEOPLE SAY ULTIMATE NINJA STORM IS BETTER?

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Its like, the only care about The Graphics. I mean, where is the when the winning is decided by who can press the circle button faster?
Sure, UNS has cool effects, Best Cell-Shading Engine at the moment etc.

TBB has an RPG Elemnt, And 'Zelda'-Like Story-Mode, Battles where you can just smack your way out.

etc.

Is Graphics really the only thing that counts now?
Like, what happend to the fun in gamming...
Sure, graphics are is a main thing but....c'mon.
Its like, when people go on Wii Gamevideos, and say 'Wow, Wii Graphix Sux, get a real console babys'

god, it just pisses.....
me....
OFF....




Discuss....if graphics really the only thing you care or not?
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: Super Sonic Boom on April 07, 2010, 10:51:38 AM
I remember that arguement I had in video game class with people over the story vs multiplayer and I got into this discussion too. It's both for because without good graphics, everything else is rendered worthless to most people like me...and it's the other way around. They accompany each other in a way that makes everything come together with the right amount.
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: darkness shadow on April 07, 2010, 10:59:21 AM
yeah, graphics play a big part, but the hell, bad graphics dun mean bad game right? sure it might detour people in trailers, but take S3+K and sonic 06.

S3+K may be old 16 bit graphics and is nothing compared to sonic 06, but hell, the game's much better
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: shadowDOESrock on April 07, 2010, 11:02:36 AM
Quote from: darkness shadow on April 07, 2010, 10:59:21 AM
yeah, graphics play a big part, but the hell, bad graphics dun mean bad game right? sure it might detour people in trailers, but take S3+K and sonic 06.

S3+K may be old 16 bit graphics and is nothing compared to sonic 06, but hell, the game's much better

thats a...diffrent kind of comparison. 06's graphics suck btw.

My Comparison was, 2 games. Same Year. One has better gameplay, one has better graphics. But everyone perfers the one the with better graphics.
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: EchidnaPower on April 07, 2010, 11:03:08 AM
In this day and age, graphics play a big part in the quality of the game. People have come to expect incredible graphics, and are disappointed if they don't meet expectations. But yes, graphics don't mean much if the story and the gameplay don't match.
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: NiGHTS on April 07, 2010, 11:24:08 AM
Gameplay, gameplay gameplay.

I mean in some cases such as Tekken vs Guilty gear

If I were to show many people a Guilty Gear accent core (wii) gameplay video and a TekkenVI gameplay vid. They would much sooner go for the tekkenVI due to the fact the graphics are better (and probably because its 3D)

But when you play the two games you find that, guilty gear is alot faster so therefore there is alot more skill and concentration involved to dodge moves (also due to the fact you cant dodge to the side) and building convo.

As opposed to something like tekken where you do seem to have quite a bit more reaction time to gaurd or counter attack etc etc. Oh well Its just a matter of opinion i guess.

I prefere gameplay, good graphics would just be an added bonus :/
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: Xyno76 on April 07, 2010, 11:27:10 AM
i say gameplay... i mean back when sonic 1,2, &3 came out, they had max graphics at the time, but i still play them more than any other game now, (besides brawl XD) so i say gameplay...
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: rockout909 on April 07, 2010, 11:46:33 AM
Quote from: Xyno76 on April 07, 2010, 11:27:10 AM
i say gameplay... i mean back when sonic 1,2, &3 came out, they had max graphics at the time, but i still play them more than any other game now, (besides brawl XD) so i say gameplay...

any1 who votes for graphics has NO TASTE in games... NOOOOOO TASTE!
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: Hakudamashi on April 07, 2010, 12:05:21 PM
both
no matter how fun the game is,if its sh*tty looking I won't be going back to it often

Also I prefer NUNS over TBB gameplay wise also for many reasons with the main one being is plays like the previous Ultimate Ninja series with cool new add-ons

also this should be in other video games
~MOVED~
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: Jazz Nova on April 07, 2010, 02:01:09 PM
Gameplay
A bad game can have stellar graphics
A good game can have bad graphics

Wii games are good, though don't need next-gen graphics

If I want graphics, I play a computer game

It's that simple for me
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: Hakudamashi on April 07, 2010, 02:10:46 PM
Quote from: Jazz Nova on April 07, 2010, 02:01:09 PM
Gameplay
A good game can have stellar graphics
A bad game can have bad graphics

computer games are good, though don't need next-gen graphics

If I want graphics, I play a Wii game

It's that simple for me
this is also true :P
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: Jazz Nova on April 09, 2010, 10:00:34 AM
Quote from: Jazz Nova on April 07, 2010, 02:01:09 PM
Gameplay
A bad game can have stellar graphics
A good game can have bad graphics

Wii games are good, though don't need next-gen graphics

If I want graphics, I play a computer game

It's that simple for me
Quote from: windlessusher on April 07, 2010, 02:10:46 PM
this is also true :P
I know
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: Hyper Shadow 00 on April 09, 2010, 10:20:57 AM
Quote from: Jazz Nova on April 07, 2010, 02:01:09 PM
Gameplay
A bad game can have stellar graphics
A good game can have bad graphics

Wii games are good, though don't need next-gen graphics

If I want graphics, I play a computer game

It's that simple for me

This is very true... :)
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: Tanassy on April 09, 2010, 03:50:23 PM
Lets take a slightly different approach..

Graphics go quite far in getting records and a smaller audiences attention, i mean, look at what SEGA did for sonic unleashed's hedgehog engine, look at what Crytek did to the Cryengine, etc. BUT, the gamplay is what makes people keep the game, or buy it after they rented it. because a fun game with decent graphics beats a shit game with stunning graphics (compare any good wii game to the rest of the market :D). nuff said.

so not only is it better for the player(s)' enjoyment, but also better for the company, which earns more money, makes more games, and we have more fun.
Gameplay wins.
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: Hakudamashi on April 10, 2010, 05:14:42 PM
Why am I not surprised so few people chose "both"
gameplay is important,but saying graphics isn't needed is outrageous
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: SuperSonic23 on April 10, 2010, 05:35:20 PM
Gameplay! I don't give a shit about graphics!!! I give a shit if the gameplay is good!!! Seriously, whoever cares about graphics, go fuck yourself right now!!!
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: Thorax777 on April 10, 2010, 05:53:51 PM
Quote from: SuperSonic12 on April 10, 2010, 05:35:20 PM
Gameplay! I don't give a shit about graphics!!! I give a shit if the gameplay is good!!! Seriously, whoever cares about graphics, go fuck yourself right now!!!

A little harsh don't ya think? Companies today need put out a game with stellar graphics or else it won't catch the eyes of the buyers. Yes, there are those games with awesome graphics and sucky gameplay *cough* FF11-FF13 *cough*. But companies go through alot nowadays with testers and such just to make people have fun. Plus games are usually directed towards certain crowds.
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: SuperSonic23 on April 10, 2010, 06:01:37 PM
Quote from: Thorax777 on April 10, 2010, 05:53:51 PM


A little harsh don't ya think? Companies today need put out a game with stellar graphics or else it won't catch the eyes of the buyers. Yes, there are those games with awesome graphics and sucky gameplay *cough* FF11-FF13 *cough*. But companies go through alot nowadays with testers and such just to make people have fun. Plus games are usually directed towards certain crowds.

FFXIII does NOT have sucky gameplay!!! And graphics are kinda good, but nothing special to worry about. Only gameplay is good. That's why I watch playthroughs of games I want BEFORE I buy them.
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: Thorax777 on April 10, 2010, 06:02:56 PM
Wait you watch the other people play the entire game? doesn't that kinda ruin the experience? :-\
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: SuperSonic23 on April 10, 2010, 06:04:58 PM
Quote from: Thorax777 on April 10, 2010, 06:02:56 PM
Wait you watch the other people play the entire game? doesn't that kinda ruin the experience? :-\

No. Cuz:

1. I'm not playing it.

2. It helps me when I get and play the real game.

3. I see commercials and stuff, so I see the experience.
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: HereAndThere on April 10, 2010, 06:23:11 PM
Gameplay.
If the graphics would matter, games like Megaman 9 and 10 wouln't have 8-bit graphics.
They would have been made in 3D, have "epic" graphics and then in the end have sucked so f*cking hard that Megaman Fans would have sent hate mail 1,000 times each.
So yeah, if the graphics would matter some of the games that are epic now, wouldn't be epic if the graphics would matter.
You don't buy a game to sit, stare at the TV and the games graphics and drool at the same time till you have a seizure.
You buy it for playing.
So the people who thinks graphics make a good game can go f*ck theirselves.
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: Thorax777 on April 10, 2010, 06:30:51 PM
Quote from: SuperSonic12 on April 10, 2010, 06:04:58 PM
No. Cuz:

1. I'm not playing it.

2. It helps me when I get and play the real game.

3. I see commercials and stuff, so I see the experience.

Haven't you ever just gone online or into a store and look at the case and thought it would be fun? Bought it and then went home and got great enjoyment from your time playing it?

I did this with Star ocean : Till the end of time and Final fantasy 7 and it was probably the greatest enjoyment ever. Then you feel the suspense of not knowing the story and can get a thrill.

Post Merge: April 11, 2010, 12:32:38 AM

Quote from: jeexx on April 10, 2010, 06:23:11 PM
Gameplay.
If the graphics would matter, games like Megaman 9 and 10 wouln't have 8-bit graphics.
They would have been made in 3D, have "epic" graphics and then in the end have sucked so f*cking hard that Megaman Fans would have sent hate mail 1,000 times each.
So yeah, if the graphics would matter some of the games that are epic now, wouldn't be epic if the graphics would matter.
You don't buy a game to sit, stare at the TV and the games graphics and drool at the same time till you have a seizure.
You buy it for playing.
So the people who thinks graphics make a good game can go f*ck theirselves.

And what about Mega Man legends? It was 3d and I never knew anyone who disliked the game.
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: SuperSonic23 on April 11, 2010, 06:18:48 AM
Quote from: jeexx on April 10, 2010, 06:23:11 PM
Gameplay.
If the graphics would matter, games like Megaman 9 and 10 wouln't have 8-bit graphics.
They would have been made in 3D, have "epic" graphics and then in the end have sucked so f*cking hard that Megaman Fans would have sent hate mail 1,000 times each.
So yeah, if the graphics would matter some of the games that are epic now, wouldn't be epic if the graphics would matter.
You don't buy a game to sit, stare at the TV and the games graphics and drool at the same time till you have a seizure.
You buy it for playing.
So the people who thinks graphics make a good game can go f*ck theirselves.

Amen to that, bro. +1.
Title: Re: Why Graphics....
Post by: DarkerSuperSonic on May 08, 2010, 05:11:36 PM
I say gameplay graphics doesn't make a game better.