Is anyone excited about Final Fantasy XIII (PS3, 360) Final Fantasy Versus XIII (PS3) and Final Fantasy Agito XIII? (PSP) Cause I am. If you've seen Final Fantasy VII Advent Children you should be. Cause they want to combat to be like the battles in Advent Children. And the people who are working on Versus is the Kingdom hearts team the final fantasy theme and...*whispers* the director of FF X-2.
Edit: If you want to know my thoughts about the 3rd party game company that is making the games. Look under my pic
I'm gonna buy Versus XIII and Agito XIII for sure but i dn't know about XIII because the game looks great but the main character is a girl.
Quote from: LighttheHedgehog on June 04, 2009, 02:29:34 AM
I'm gonna buy Versus XIII and Agito XIII for sure but i dn't know about XIII because the game looks great but the main character is a girl.
=o but FF10-2 was ossum and you only used three girls and if you didnt play it you were missing out but yea if i had a ps3 or psp id get agito and versus but ill have to stick to XIII but it isnt meant to be out until next year ( January i think) I heard it in game
I heard the game(XIII) was coming 03/02/2010.
yea they put the release date back three times and its annoyin meh soo much D:<
if what you say is true
then its a must have
It is true,Gamespot sended me a message,and there's XIV(the MMO)that's coming 12/31/2010.
We Have Final Fantasy X 1 and 2, so maybe we might get this one as well
i still can't believe they're making a final fantasy on xbox
I am loving this game all the way.
...aside from from a few nit-picks at the characters designs.
ULTRA-NECROBUMP.
... kinda makes me smh at you.
in before jkid posts about bumps being allowed
Also kyo
Clip-clop-clip-clop-clip-clop
surprisingly it does eventually blend into the background....
clip-clop
*twitch*
Quote from: SmashFinale on May 14, 2013, 12:01:49 PM
ULTRA-NECROBUMP.
... kinda makes me smh at you.
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...also its quite sad that we've reached the point where people dont even write "shake my head" outQuote from: NiGHTS on May 14, 2013, 12:03:32 PM
in before jkid posts about bumps being allowed
Also kyo
Clip-clop-clip-clop-clip-clop
surprisingly it does eventually blend into the background....
clip-clop
*twitch*
I actually did notice that, but it didnt really bother me- especially considering the beautiful BGM playing.
Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on May 14, 2013, 12:13:38 PM
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...also its quite sad that we've reached the point where people dont even write "shake my head" out
I actually did notice that, but it didnt really bother me- especially considering the beautiful BGM playing.
yeah I was the same, that is just what everyone uses as an excuse not to play the game as well as it being "linear".
This game shouldn't have been called Final Fantasy. The reception would've been much better.
Quote from: windlessusher on May 14, 2013, 06:09:45 PM
This game shouldn't have been called Final Fantasy. The reception would've been much better.
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Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on May 15, 2013, 04:21:07 AM
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For the love of fucking GOD Kyo do we have to have this disscussion again?
There is nothing wrong with change, but YOU tell ME what is the logic in:
-Removing my huge overworld connecting ALL the locales packed to the brim with sidequests OTHER than "Go hunt this"
-Taking away the ability to control our own airship
-WHERE THE F*CK IS METEOR AND ULTIMA?(Actually this one's a bit of a nitpick)
-Actually smart and well hidden loot
-Where are the absurd superbossess?
-Where are the minigames?
Why change all of those for what we got? Are you telling me these changes are an improvement? They made the franchise better? This is a step
forward for Final Fantasy?
The Job system is a positive welcome change that moved the franchise forward
The ATB system is a positive welcome change that moved the franchise forward
The MP meter/guage is a positive welcome change that moved the franchise forward
The Materia system was a welcome change of pace cause it didn't FUCK OVER what makes Final Fantasy what it was.
The Junction System, albeit a bit broken, didn't fuck over what makes Final Fantasy what it was.
The Ability Points system, albeit I didn't like it personally, didn't fuck over what makes Final Fantasy what it was.
The sphere grid? The Liscence points? Being turned into a fucking MMO?
What did FFXIII do for the Final Fantasy name that makes it go forward? What did they add that made any sense in the world of Final Fantasy?
The game doesn't even have the Final Fantasy theme song
Where the fuck do you come off saying we don't like FFXIII JUST because it "changed".
And CHRIST, for the least time I
don't Hate this fucking game. I like the BGM, I like the characters, I like the combat, the story, the graphics, the fact that you are healed back to health after each fight, and I certaintly don't mind the linearity of it. I LIKE THE GAME, but you have to explain, why, in the name of all that has sense, why this game had to be titled "Final Fantasy"? What does it have anything to do with anything about Final Fantasy other than a few "references" and "nods" so some of the FF creatures?
Final Fantasy has a consistant Theme Song?
Quote from: windlessusher on May 15, 2013, 09:36:56 AM
For the love of fucking GOD Kyo do we have to have this disscussion again?
There is nothing wrong with change, but YOU tell ME what is the logic in:
-Removing my huge overworld connecting ALL the locales packed to the brim with sidequests OTHER than "Go hunt this"
-Taking away the ability to control our own airship
-WHERE THE F*CK IS METEOR AND ULTIMA?(Actually this one's a bit of a nitpick)
-Actually smart and well hidden loot
-Where are the absurd superbossess?
-Where are the minigames?
Why change all of those for what we got? Are you telling me these changes are an improvement? They made the franchise better? This is a step forward for Final Fantasy?
The Job system is a positive welcome change that moved the franchise forward
The ATB system is a positive welcome change that moved the franchise forward
The MP meter/guage is a positive welcome change that moved the franchise forward
The Materia system was a welcome change of pace cause it didn't FUCK OVER what makes Final Fantasy what it was.
The Junction System, albeit a bit broken, didn't fuck over what makes Final Fantasy what it was.
The Ability Points system, albeit I didn't like it personally, didn't fuck over what makes Final Fantasy what it was.
The sphere grid? The Liscence points? Being turned into a fucking MMO?
What did FFXIII do for the Final Fantasy name that makes it go forward? What did they add that made any sense in the world of Final Fantasy?
The game doesn't even have the Final Fantasy theme song
Where the fuck do you come off saying we don't like FFXIII JUST because it "changed".
And CHRIST, for the least time I don't Hate this fucking game. I like the BGM, I like the characters, I like the combat, the story, the graphics, the fact that you are healed back to health after each fight, and I certaintly don't mind the linearity of it. I LIKE THE GAME, but you have to explain, why, in the name of all that has sense, why this game had to be titled "Final Fantasy"? What does it have anything to do with anything about Final Fantasy other than a few "references" and "nods" so some of the FF creatures?
CALM YOUR TITS
They tried something new with their game, not everyone liked it, oh well who cares.
How is this not final fantasy? the games never really tied together before besides the few references and the reusage of monsters.
Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on May 15, 2013, 10:01:35 AM
Final Fantasy has a consistant Theme Song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=552_znU_sGs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=552_znU_sGs)
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL1yj9JAP2o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL1yj9JAP2o)
Quote from: NiGHTS on May 15, 2013, 10:46:17 AM
CALM YOUR TITS
I'll "calm my tits" when I people stop using this annoying and WRONG argument of "Fans hate it because there's change".
Quote from: NiGHTS on May 15, 2013, 10:46:17 AM
How is this not final fantasy? the games never really tied together before besides the few references and the reusage of monsters.
lol no, you answer me first, how is anything FFXIII did resemble Final Fantasy other than namesakes?
Quote from: windlessusher on May 15, 2013, 03:48:14 PM
I'll "calm my tits" when I people stop using this annoying and WRONG argument of "Fans hate it because there's change".
lol no, you answer me first, how is anything FFXIII did resemble Final Fantasy other than namesakes?
the main theme of Final fantasy was not played in Final fantasy II and X either.
QuoteRemoving my huge overworld connecting ALL the locales packed to the brim with sidequests OTHER than "Go hunt this"
Not all Final fantasy games have a lot of sidequests like FF1 you couldn't really do the sidequests/dungeons until late in the game because the monsters were too powerful so they might as well have been available late game like FFXIII
QuoteTaking away the ability to control our own airship
Why would you need to? The l'cie stones AND the portals made through the story line are enough to easily traverse the available areas of the game. Failing that you also have chocobo's.
QuoteWhere are the absurd superbossess?
well someone hasn't played through the side quests.
As for changes that brought the system forward, the paradigm system was a welcome change to the game (or at least it was in my and some other peoples opinion) when combined with the class system. It saves you having to switch roles in between battles and adds an extra layer of strategy into the fights themselves.
IMO the story is very FF-like "there is a powerful organisation/villian and you have a rag-tag group of heroes with which to stop them." when you dumb it down to basics. The groups characters also follow the typical format of the more recent final fantasy games as explained by Yahtzee (from the zero punctuation reviews) "we have angsty spice, serious spice, manly spice, ethnic spice and of course the inevitable kookie spice." (although being a non JRPG fan he did not play far enough into the game for Fang)
We also have the use of other Final fantasy spells, weapons, summons and monsters.
They tried to do something different with the game, but instead of making one or two changes like in previous games they made a few more which for most people brings us back to kyo-cats "change is bad" picture. (yes I said most people, not directing that at you wind before you blow a gasket)
also long gui and ultima <.<>.>
Quote from: windlessusher on May 15, 2013, 03:48:14 PM
music
(Had to google an original version before i recognized it lol)
Ah.
Well, s' not that big of a deal.
Halo 4 didnt have the Halo Theme either.
They both have fairly amazing themes in their own right that fit the game better.
... Okay, Halo 4 has a musical cue to the main theme to make a certain happening in the story more powerful.
... But so does FF13.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ske4pPzuBo0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ske4pPzuBo0)
http://spoonyexperiment.com/category/game-reviews/final-fantasy-xiii/ (http://spoonyexperiment.com/category/game-reviews/final-fantasy-xiii/)
Quote from: NiGHTS on May 15, 2013, 10:43:58 PM
the main theme of Final fantasy was not played in Final fantasy II and X either.
It also wasn't in FFVIII, what's your point? My point is that FFXIII has neither of the themes on top of all the other wrongs.
Quote from: NiGHTS on May 15, 2013, 10:43:58 PM
Not all Final fantasy games have a lot of sidequests like FF1 you couldn't really do the sidequests/dungeons until late in the game because the monsters were too powerful so they might as well have been available late game like FFXIII
The sidequests, regardless of being at the beginning or not, had variety, from reuniting lovers to visiting a porn theatre, all XIII has is "go kill this".
And whereas other Final Fantasies gave you the option to do these early if you had the balls to try it, FFXIII doesn't even introduce the concept of a sidequest until
24hrs into the game.
Quote from: NiGHTS on May 15, 2013, 10:43:58 PM
Why would you need to? The l'cie stones AND the portals made through the story line are enough to easily traverse the available areas of the game. Failing that you also have chocobo's.
For the people who want an airship? We had teleportation and Chocobos, and submarines, and spaceships, and buggies and all manners of transportation in previous FFs, but that never stopped them from giving us an awesome airship.
Quote from: NiGHTS on May 15, 2013, 10:43:58 PM
well someone hasn't played through the side quests.
I played those annoying search and destroy missions, and that's what they were... annoying. Just annoying bullet proof walls with predictable unimaginative patterns who kill you in 2 hits if you haven't maxed out your Chrystarium.
The optional superbosses were imaginative creatures of some mythology where their attack patterns and weakness were derived from said lore(Well, some of em anyway...). And also you had to go out of your way to go on some semi-ridiculous goose chase to even find it. And also, they could've been attempted BEFORE the actual final boss?
Quote from: NiGHTS on May 15, 2013, 10:43:58 PM
As for changes that brought the system forward, the paradigm system was a welcome change to the game (or at least it was in my and some other peoples opinion) when combined with the class system. It saves you having to switch roles in between battles and adds an extra layer of strategy into the fights themselves.
I agree. I also appreciate "Auto Battle" since what you pretty much end up doing in any battle is mash "X" on your same spells anyway.
Quote from: NiGHTS on May 15, 2013, 10:43:58 PM
IMO the story is very FF-like "there is a powerful organisation/villian and you have a rag-tag group of heroes with which to stop them." when you dumb it down to basics. The groups characters also follow the typical format of the more recent final fantasy games as explained by Yahtzee (from the zero punctuation reviews) "we have angsty spice, serious spice, manly spice, ethnic spice and of course the inevitable kookie spice." (although being a non JRPG fan he did not play far enough into the game for Fang)
We also have the use of other Final fantasy spells, weapons, summons and monsters.
These are truopes for every JRPG ever, most of which is just derived from Japanese culture, it's even in anime. None of that has enough bearing that this game should be called "Final Fantasy".
For the amount of bitching people give the industry for not making enough new IPs, why are they the same people who praise seuqels when they get released? Oh, it's cause "They changed so much to make it fresh"? Hey guys, how about the next time change a franchise soo much that it no longer resembles it's source material other than just a few common video game troupes, why not just change the title too?
Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on May 16, 2013, 01:15:36 AM
Well, s' not that big of a deal.
It really isn't, some other Final Fantasies don't have either theme, but my point was that this game pretty much went and did it's own thing creating it's own identity, being it's own game, but for some fucking reason it just has the Final Fantasy name on it. It doesn't
even have either of themes to at least suggest "Yes fans, we care about the Final Fantasy name, we're just trying something different this time"...
well so
currently the biggest "Square Enix" rumour out there is that
Final Fantasy Versus 13 has "moved on" and will be rebranded as Final Fantasy 15.
Now, keep in mind that Versus 13 basically is (or was) an third person action game... idunno if thats a good thing.
Never got why it was called Versus XIII to begin with.
Just as long it doesn't turn into another Duke Nukem Forever...
Quote from: windlessusher on June 08, 2013, 01:05:41 PM
Never got why it was called Versus XIII to begin with.
It uses the same mythology as the rest of XIII- with all the crystals, l'cie and fal'cie being major plotpoints- even though Versus XIII is set in an alternate "XIII" Universe.
Typo-0 is also a part of the 13 Series.
Wasn't it called Novula Chrystallium or something? Why not just call it that?
It's real mythology btw.
Quote from: windlessusher on June 09, 2013, 06:28:06 PM
Wasn't it called Novula Chrystallium or something? Why not just call it that?
It's real mythology btw.
Well i googled it aaand found out that there's actually an entire article about this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabula_Nova_Crystallis_Final_Fantasy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabula_Nova_Crystallis_Final_Fantasy)
So many names they could've called it other than FFXIII...
Quote from: windlessusher on June 09, 2013, 08:03:12 PM
So many names they could've called it other than FFXIII...
they probably couldnt get the budget back if it was not called FF13.
What happened to all that money they got from the PS2 era?
Quote from: windlessusher on June 10, 2013, 05:08:03 AM
What happened to all that money they got from the PS2 era?
what? you think they're just gonna throw it out?
That would be loss.
seriously?
You mean, they didn't take the money they got from the PS1 era and used it to do their business in the PS2 era?
Quote from: windlessusher on June 10, 2013, 07:15:49 AM
You mean, they didn't take the money they got from the PS1 era and used it to do their business in the PS2 era?
Uh, yes?
The gave the next games a bigger budget?
FFXIII had a huge budget, thus you can take less risks- even if you want to do something different.
Why FF13 gets sequels? 'Cause Japan.
Quote from: Tri-Blade"This rebranding â€" combined with the Final Fantasy 13 name getting second billing to its lead character â€" provides some compelling evidence that the developer might be a little ashamed of that "lucky" number these days."
That is a load of horse shit any you know that.
list of best female characters in Final Fantasy:
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/01/japan-ranks-their-favorite-female-characters-from-the-final-fantasy-series/
FF13-2 only came into creation after the creators looked closely into it:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/267878/final-fantasy-xiii-sequel-depends-on-fan-reaction/
LR: FF13 has had the creators more than compliant to answering questions:
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a453779/lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii-wont-feature-story-dlc.html
http://gamingeverything.com/42598/famitsus-most-wanted-games-31113/
http://www.siliconera.com/tag/lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii/
Final Fantasy Vs XIII was paid by Sony to expand further
http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/14161/article/final-fantasy-xiii-versus-heading-to-ps4-report/
And HAVE you seen the preorder box set in Japan?
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii-ultimate-box-announced-box-art-revealed/
If ANYTHING, Square Enix is riding on the fact that FF13 and Lighning are HUGE successes in Japan.
As for the sexualization, they got rid of that dumb sexy pose that the one dress had.
Quote from: YourColourTV@Tri-Blade You know none of the western gamers are gonna care, they want the stuff their way-
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It's sad when westerners are so blatantly idiotic towards what easterners like that they have to say "The only opinion that matter is the AMERICAN opinion! Japanese audience? Fuck you, your opinion does not matter! As long as you eastern developers don't develop games OUR way, it will never be a good game!"
Disgusting really.
I was well aware of how popular it is in Japan, and I too love Lightning as a character.
It's just the principle of what a franchise means to me is what I got prissy about...
Post Merge: June 17, 2013, 05:20:09 PM
Actually, no, scratch that, I think I found the reason I am so negative towards FFXIII.
I did some soul searching and found out I disliked FFXIII for the same reason I hate just about everything Japan's been putting out recently...
I like FFXIII's ending, it was a happy beautiful ending, the Snow was gonna marry his woman and have a bagillion children together, Lighting learned she doesn't have to be a cunt to be cool, Sahz got his kid back, the lesbians turned into diamonds and Hope...
When they announced FFXIII-2 I was hoping more along the lines of FFX-2 where we get to see how everything turned out after living comfortable for a few years, and what do I get instead? Lightning dissapears suddenly into a world where she has to act tough again, and Serah spends the entire game with not her husband.
Yeah, that's right, I found out what made me so anti-FFXIIIverse is because they either decided not to make Snow&Serah be together or make it needlessly complicated(I dunno what they're gonna do for FFXIII-3) >=U
One major thing I wanted from this fucking game was just for Snow to go on an epic journey to save his woman and just get hitched in the end, and that's exactly what I got from the ending and I was ecstatic, but NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Japan just can't allow a happy couple in their fiction, there just HAS to be some bullshit to keep them apart.
You fucking gave me exactly what I wanted and then just yanked it from me when I wasn't looking and refuse to give it back. And this had me livid.
Soo livid, that I pushed it to the back of my mind and found other seemingly legit reasons to hate on this series so that it can fail and never be heard from again...
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Quote from: windlessusher on June 17, 2013, 03:33:13 PM
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Ah, i see...
You really like happy endings.
... But isnt the entire point of such a story progression to make you feel sad / mad about that?
I'm still only like 10 hours into FFXIII 1.
Reminds about how people complained over Alien 3, because (in case you havent seen the movies) at the end of Aliens the two main protagonists basically get together with an adopted child.
Then at the beginning of Alien 3 turns out the man and the child died during a crash landing of their spaceship...
And people were upset that their favourite characters died...
Thats like, the entire point, to make you feel upset, sad or w/e
I dont know how FFXIII-2 handles it, but seeing that LR:XIII trailer and playing FFXIII... that seems to be the case.
As for LR:XIII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw5aFX0mlkY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw5aFX0mlkY)
Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on June 18, 2013, 02:05:05 PM
Reminds about how people complained over Alien 3, because (in case you havent seen the movies) at the end of Aliens the two main protagonists basically get together with an adopted child.
Then at the beginning of Alien 3 turns out the man and the child died during a crash landing of their spaceship...
And people were upset that their favourite characters died...
Thats like, the entire point, to make you feel upset, sad or w/e
I did see Aliens 3, and I was
livid about that too.
But since you're telling me there's an actual genre of story telling like that, I best do some
extensive research before I dare invest myself in another project with characters I actually end up liking alot...
Quote from: Kotaku"If I were to describe the gameplay," said Yoshinori Kitase, producer of Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII said, "I'd say that there are some elements [in Lightning Returns] with the severity of [a game like] Dark Souls." Oh, crap…
Considering I was never able to clear Dark Souls, that's not very reassuring.
We've already heard a lot is different in the game system of Lightning Returns compared with the previous two chapters in the FFXIII trilogy. The game is more open-world, the combat is solo with a stagger mechanic, and there's an in-game thirteen day time limit. But time, as it turns out, isn't the only limiting factor.
In an interview with Weekly Famitsu, Kitase and director Motomu Toriyama said that there are a limited number of slots for items you can carry in the game which adds an element of inventory management. Also, combat does not yield experience points or money, so while you can go to inns to heal up, you might not want to resort to that option unless you really need it. Said Toriyama, "Thinking economically is very important in this game!"
So, not only will the world end in a limited time â€" during which you have to run around and fight alone against monsters and former allies â€" but you also have to watch your purse strings and how much you can carry? Is this Final Fantasy or Resident Evil?
Oh, and that time limit of thirteen days? You actually start out with only seven, but can extend it up to thirteen days by completing missions.
Currently, the game has been completed to the point where it is possible to play from beginning to end and the developers are tweaking the game balance. Hopefully they'll make the game as fun as it sounds difficult, if not easier (or at least add a difficulty setting).
Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII is scheduled for release on the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 in Japan on November 21st and in North America on February 11th, 2014.
I have seen some comments about this, mainly that People do not seem to enjoy a Timer in a game. Especially in an RPG.
But... thinking about it... that might be a really cool thing in the case of something like Final Fantasy.
Are you gonna engage the enemies to gain Experience Points to become more powerful, but might waste time...
Or simply run through the world and not engage the enemies, but then get stuck and waste time on harder enemies...
Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on June 22, 2013, 12:44:46 AM
I have seen some comments about this, mainly that People do not seem to enjoy a Timer in a game. Especially in an RPG.
But... thinking about it... that might be a really cool thing in the case of something like Final Fantasy.
Are you gonna engage the enemies to gain Experience Points to become more powerful, but might waste time...
Or simply run through the world and not engage the enemies, but then get stuck and waste time on harder enemies...
That doesn't sound fun at all.
Fun is where the challenge is.
Or atleast, thats what i would've said 10 years ago to people before all games became easy as fuck and explained you everything and everything that remotely hard or might be stressing is an issue.
Quote from: {Your Lovely Kyo}~ on June 22, 2013, 09:53:14 AM
Fun is where the challenge is.
I get that.
But the combination of time limit AND still needing to maintain levels n' sh*t as it is still an RPG doesn't sound fun to me at all...